Sumo DD Spring Drilling

Oscar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Intrested in your comment ref 3m DTS above as the drilling I did last Autumn all has gaps where I started/finished runs. Can t blame anyone as I was the operator but some of the gaps are a couple meters long but I thought I was lowering/ raising bang on. Havent worked out [can t remember] which way it was but I suspect its slow to start off on lowering. Of course biggest problem was that Il drilled everything before anything emerged so did nt know I had a issue until after I finished !!!
 

MDA

Member
Trade
Sorry MDA I should said in my other post that my thinking is that you could run say a 4m DTS seeding unit and change to a wider DD seeding unit for different crops and soil conditions using the one tractor and seed/fert cart.

Alistair,
In principle it's possible but with that variation you could end up with a 4m drill section on a 6m chassis which I'm sure no driver would be thankful of. As a very rough estimate you would save around 25% against the price of two separate drills and our experience with interchangeable cultivation that we have done in the past is that it gets changed once and never gets changed again! But I agree the idea is sound.
Anything is possible though and I'm sure more variations of the DTS and DD format will come in the future.

Marv.
 
I thought the 750a crew routinely go 15k+?

Not in "no-till" conditions. 6 to 9k looks like the speed guys are drilling at regardless of drill colour (Easydrill, 750A, Semeato, etc)
Was just checking a field this afternoon, 750A at 9km/h drilling peas into green oats, was too fast for the stony patch.
I don't get how it's possible to be "low disturbance" and still place the seed properly at 15k ! Maybe in sand ?
 
Location
Cambridge
Not in "no-till" conditions. 6 to 9k looks like the speed guys are drilling at regardless of drill colour (Easydrill, 750A, Semeato, etc)
Was just checking a field this afternoon, 750A at 9km/h drilling peas into green oats, was too fast for the stony patch.
I don't get how it's possible to be "low disturbance" and still place the seed properly at 15k ! Maybe in sand ?
Didn't @Simon Chiles tell me he once did a field at 20k?
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
Didn't @Simon Chiles tell me he once did a field at 20k?

Yes, once in a super smooth field with a JD 6400 on a 4m drill when I first had one just to try it out. Was obviously only drilling shallowly.
As @Clive said 12 to 14 k is my norm.
It was the same 6400 that I managed to plough 50 acres with in one very long day, 3 fields and none of them flat or easy shapes. It punched way above its weight.
 

Andrew K

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Essex
Intrested in your comment ref 3m DTS above as the drilling I did last Autumn all has gaps where I started/finished runs. Can t blame anyone as I was the operator but some of the gaps are a couple meters long but I thought I was lowering/ raising bang on. Havent worked out [can t remember] which way it was but I suspect its slow to start off on lowering. Of course biggest problem was that Il drilled everything before anything emerged so did nt know I had a issue until after I finished !!!

Not sure how the Sumo drill activates the drive to the meter motor,but we had a similar issue with the drive being slow to start with our Claydon.Turns out the RDS trip switch on the top link was tired, a new one seems much better.
 

MDA

Member
Trade
Yesterday we drilled propino spring barley into a cover crop mix of radish, phacilia, black oats and vetch on some heavy-ish 'sunk island' land on Holderness.
A good test for the drill as it there was quite a contrast between the soil conditions where the cover had taken well and where it was not so good and still had bare ground with stubble. In the good part of the field the disc penetrated well but rode out slightly on the harder bits. we increased the coulter pressure to account for this and slowed down to 6kmhr which worked well. we also had to adjust the rear press wheels to run in line with direction of drilling when on the harder parts of the field to reduce the soil disturbance.
The farmers thoughts on the cover crop establishment were that it would be better to cultivate the ground traditionally to get the best take, and then go from there.
Marv.
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Jack Russell

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Holderness
Yes he drilled his cover in September straight into stubble with his 4m Vaddy. Straw was baled and chased.

Normally they plough everything as they were in a cont ww rotation.
 

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