Sumo quatro forward speed.

[l'ordinary bonville]

New 3m quatro here on clay loams.
If sufficient power is available what is the ideal speed?
Currently 10-11k limited by power but thinking 12-12.5 may be better.
How fast is too fast?

 

[TripleSix]

One of those machines that I would suspect likes to be on the boil.

I would think it'll get even better approaching 14kph.

Used to run a 3m Discerator behind a Deere 8345 at 14kph, the difference in the job between 10kph and 14kph was night and day.

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

One of those machines that I would suspect likes to be on the boil.

I would think it'll get even better approaching 14kph.

Used to run a 3m Discerator behind a Deere 8345 at 14kph, the difference in the job between 10kph and 14kph was night and day.

Sounds like more ponies needed.
Currently 8k in tough areas and uphill, 10-11 elsewhere.

 

[TripleSix]

Time for a 939!
Or a 1050!?

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

Or a 1050!?

I could put wings on the sumo and get airborne

 

[clbarclay]

How difficult would it be to drop off a few legs and discs?
Narrow it down so your current tractor can pull it fast to see what difference it makes.

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

Its the combination of legs and discs at speed that I'm wondering about.

If I lift legs out I won't get a true picture of the finish.

Have a 936(9) coming on demo and a JD7310. That should sortit

 

[Mr Charisma]

Although not a quarto we wouldn't get above 11 or 12 with our trio very often

 

[Will 1594]

Its the combination of legs and discs at speed that I'm wondering about.

If I lift legs out I won't get a true picture of the finish.

Have a 936(9) coming on demo and a JD7310. That should sortit

You must not be on wearing land at those speeds. , here would just burn the metal off

 

[Mr Charisma]

What is the current yoke

 

[clbarclay]

Its the combination of legs and discs at speed that I'm wondering about.

If I lift legs out I won't get a true picture of the finish.

Have a 936(9) coming on demo and a JD7310. That should sortit

I only meamnt the outer most legs an discs, temporarily reducing the working width, leaving the middle legs and disc working at the same depth but with higher speed.

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

I only meamnt the outer most legs an discs, temporarily reducing the working width, leaving the middle legs and disc working at the same depth but with higher speed.

Sorry. Got it

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

What is the current yoke

3 point linkage to a scharmuller

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

You must not be on wearing land at those speeds. , here would just burn the metal off

Clay. Brickyard type stuff. Some loamy

 

[Feldspar]

New 3m quatro here on clay loams.
If sufficient power is available what is the ideal speed?
Currently 10-11k limited by power but thinking 12-12.5 may be better.
How fast is too fast?

What hp would you think a 4m would take to pull on your soil types? How have you found the Quattro? Still got it?

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

What hp would you think a 4m would take to pull on your soil types? How have you found the Quattro? Still got it?

I haven’t got it now since the move to dd or less movement.
I had the new style quatro on 3m with 280hp comfortably working 200mm with the low disturbance tines and 8-11k depending on conditions.
some nasty tough land would next at least this power but more than 12t weighted up tractor.
For 4m I would suggest minimum 360hp and lots of potential ballast.
it all depends on whether you’re trying to bury the thing or not though

 

[Feldspar]

I haven’t got it now since the move to dd or less movement.
I had the new style quatro on 3m with 280hp comfortably working 200mm with the low disturbance tines and 8-11k depending on conditions.
some nasty tough land would next at least this power but more than 12t weighted up tractor.
For 4m I would suggest minimum 360hp and lots of potential ballast.
it all depends on whether you’re trying to bury the thing or not though

Thanks. I hadn't noticed the BASE Member logo!!!

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

Thanks. I hadn't noticed the BASE Member logo!!!

So when we got it we worked at 10 inches with the winged points and disced at 3-4 inches. Then progressively less over about 4-5 years to 6-7 inches and LD point with discs 2 inches.
Those couple of dry summers we didn't put the legs in at all as they just brought up dry lumps. Ground cracking on our clays did enough. It was difficult to disc under 3 inches without bringing up lumps and we also have a 6m short disc that ended up doing most surface cultivation.

After that it was just a short hop to DD. Or very shallow till for levelling and virtually DD.

I did like the quatro though. It mixed soil very well if thats was we were trying to do and it coped well with rape stubble in tramlines, areas of weedy mess etc.

I enjoy making ground black still...

 

[Feldspar]

So when we got it we worked at 10 inches with the winged points and disced at 3-4 inches. Then progressively less over about 4-5 years to 6-7 inches and LD point with discs 2 inches.
Those couple of dry summers we didn't put the legs in at all as they just brought up dry lumps. Ground cracking on our clays did enough. It was difficult to disc under 3 inches without bringing up lumps and we also have a 6m short disc that ended up doing most surface cultivation.

After that it was just a short hop to DD. Or very shallow till for levelling and virtually DD.

I did like the quatro though. It mixed soil very well if thats was we were trying to do and it coped well with rape stubble in tramlines, areas of weedy mess etc.

I enjoy making ground black still...

This year has taught me that to no-till I need to get more fields in tip top condition drainage wise. Have been spending quite a lot of time cleaning ditches, and have a big chunk of moling to get done this year. Some people seem to be able to, but I find no-till after moling is just too rough, so thinking I might go down the sludge and cultivation route more for the next few years and get the fields better prepared.

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

This year has taught me that to no-till I need to get more fields in tip top condition drainage wise. Have been spending quite a lot of time cleaning ditches, and have a big chunk of moling to get done this year. Some people seem to be able to, but I find no-till after moling is just too rough, so thinking I might go down the sludge and cultivation route more for the next few years and get the fields better prepared.

Where our drainage is poor we have been punished with no till this year. Whilst we need to invest in some very expensive drainage here and there 'm hoping that not every winter is like the last 2