Sumo Strake Review??

[JD6920s]

Anyone used a Sumo Strake this season and care to report on its performance, such as how it coped with straw and trash, and how much tilth it created to get a chit against other rakes??
Pictures and videos of it working would be great too.
Thanks.

 

[Rob Holmes]

It looks to me from videos that its a cross between a stubble rake and a light discing

 

[Johndeere]

Yes we tried it, nice well made piece of kit, ability to work more aggressively than other rakes. Weed seeds and volunteers germinate very quickly behind the strake

 

[Andrew K]

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Yes we tried it, nice well made piece of kit, ability to work more aggressively than other rakes. Weed seeds and volunteers germinate very quickly behind the strake

How does damp trash flow through Geoff?

 

[Johndeere]

How does damp trash flow through Geoff?

I think for really damp conditions a machine with 2 rows of discs and a packer would be better, we used our trio without the legs in to get a chit, maybe sumo could make one of these machines?

 

[Green oak]

I think for really damp conditions a machine with 2 rows of discs and a packer would be better, we used our trio without the legs in to get a chit, maybe sumo could make one of these machines?

Simba x-press then.

 

[JD6920s]

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Yes we tried it, nice well made piece of kit, ability to work more aggressively than other rakes. Weed seeds and volunteers germinate very quickly behind the strake

I like the aggressive tines, but feel there needs to be more space between the rows, as it does look like it could block easily in a heavy crop of chopped straw, compared to other makes!

 

[Johndeere]

I like the aggressive tines, but feel there needs to be more space between the rows, as it does look like it could block easily in a heavy crop of chopped straw, compared to other makes!

Agreed, I'm sure sumo will get it right

 

[JD6920s]

Agreed, I'm sure sumo will get it right

Maybe, but you wouldn't want to have just bought one if they do though!!
I am so surprised they did not give it more room to start with, as to cope with straw you need plenty!

 

[Tractor Boy]

So not really a rake at all then.

 

[Richard Budd]

We bought one to use in conjunction with our DTS, worked really well you just have to be disciplined in the way you use it. We made sure we used it in straw crops the day after it had been combined and had no trouble at all with blockages (all our straw is chopped), the weed chit we got was excellent particularly the flush of blackgrass. My main observation was it was actually heavy enough to create about 5mm of tilth to allow weeds to chit, all other rakes I have looked at in the past have been too light weight to create any sort of tilth on heavy clay soils. It was also pretty good at sorting out the left over flat areas created by wildlife on the headlands of the fields, we left a couple of fields without raking to compare how the drill coped with these, and have to say the straked land was certainly alot easier to drill.

 

[frenchfarmer]

No more tries since 2013 ?
how compared classic straw and this strake ?
In france, we have the Techmagri Cultimulch, but it's seem to have problemes in big trashes.

 

[Andrew K]

Did a bit with one in 2014, definitely moves a bit more soil than our Weaving and did not block .Was a good straw chop though.

 

[frenchfarmer]

thanks for your return.
So why didn't you change your weaving for a strake ?

I'm a no till farmer with a 750A. if they arrived to stop the sell of glyphosate... i'll have to find a machinery who will make germinate the bad weeds, and kill them too. I think a simple straw can make a very good job for germinate, but not for killing.

 

[Acke]

Are there any front 4m Sumo Strake ?

 

[Andrew K]

Think Sumo would/ do make a front Strake.
If I were buying a new rake it would be a Strake or a Claydon most likely.
The most important thing is to get the combine chopping and spreading straw well in the first place.

 

[frenchfarmer]

Are there any front 4m Sumo Strake ?

what do you want to pass after ? are you afraid about the wheels of the tractor ?

 

[Acke]

I have a Claydon strawharrow and the best strawchopper Claas have on the Lexion 650 , IT spread great with 750 tabel. Still we have problems with large amount of WW straw! Linseed and SpringOSR with shallow seeding is not good! Or mayby cultivate is the solution?

 

[Acke]

what do you want to pass after ? are you afraid about the wheels of the tractor ?

Yes our soil is ultra sensitiv for compaction. Much clay 50-67% !

 

[Tom22890]

I was wondering if anyone else have had any more experience of these rakes. We have gone to strip till this year and we had originally planned to using our older version of the Claydon TerraStar to work a small tilth to chit but what we have found is that on the headlands where the baler hasn’t picked up all the straw or anywhere where there has been flat corn it just rolls it up into a ball. Iv looked at all of the other rakes and there are mixed reviews of them, the Claydon and weavering ones people say they can just drag straw etc into balls as well, and I went to look at a Mzuri which has discs to solve that problem but we felt it didn’t work much of a tilth in heavy clay ground.