Super Hydrein

Hotbed

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Has anyone got any pictures of super hydrein body's at work, just looking to up my game and cannot decide wether to have SH or 25s
TIA
 
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my work at our nationals 2 weeks ago
 
Just picked up on this conversation. I am currently starting to compete with an original 3F Kvernland Hydrein. Looking to improve my work - the Hydreins seem to leave broken furrows in heavy going. Are super Hydreins the way forward or should I upgrade to a more modern board ? The guys with no. 28's seem to be producing good furrows. Appreciate comments/advise.
 

Dealer

Member
Location
Shropshire
Looking at the finish in the above ploughing. I would have thought it to be too deep. Can you give some opinions please?

Surely it will depend on the class you are in and the plough width

yes to deep for 10" x 5" vintage but may not be if its 14" x 9" World style

Just my thoughts...
 

Cordiale

Member
So what would be an acceptable depth for each class? I was under the impression that it should be as shallow and narrow as possible in order to aid future cultivations, regardless of plough type.
 
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Hotbed

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Depends where you are, standard hydrein is banned in the classic class in England, that's why I have brought a super hydrein.
Just picked up on this conversation. I am currently starting to compete with an original 3F Kvernland Hydrein. Looking to improve my work - the Hydreins seem to leave broken furrows in heavy going. Are super Hydreins the way forward or should I upgrade to a more modern board ? The guys with no. 28's seem to be producing good furrows. Appreciate comments/advise.
 

Dealer

Member
Location
Shropshire
So what would be an acceptable depth for each class? I was under the impression that it should be as shallow and narrow as possible in order to aid future cultivations, regardless of plough type.


You should be shallowing off well before your last run. Last 8 furrows should be matching
 
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This is my attempt in the three furrow open class at Bridlington YFC last Sat. I am ploughing with a very early three furrow 12" Kvernland with Hydrein boards. On the day the best work in this class was done by three furrow 12" Kvernlands with no. 28 boards.
I am ploughing 7" deep, which is just over the minimum depth of 17cm. As can be seen, my problem is broken furrows. All comments welcome - I am just a beginner !

By the way, there seems to be a lot of confusion about what is allowed in the classic class ( not that it directly affects me). I checked with the Society of Ploughmen Hydreins ARE eligible in the Classic Class but NOT super Hydreins onwards. A lot of local matches are not aware of the correct rule on this. It is different in Scotland where Hydreins are NOT allowed in the Classic.
 

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
To my eye, this looks normal for those boards.There are more problems than broken work, odd furrows abound, and they are in groups of three. Plough needs some time in the workshop I think.
 
To my eye, this looks normal for those boards.There are more problems than broken work, odd furrows abound, and they are in groups of three. Plough needs some time in the workshop I think.
Correct !
I have worked out that the odd furrow is caused by my middle disc being set a little too narrow resulting in a light middle furrow - I was adjusting the front to match, leaving a big back furrow. Good advice - in the workshop before I venture out on Sunday !
 

Ray996

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Location
North Scotland
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This is my attempt in the three furrow open class at Bridlington YFC last Sat. I am ploughing with a very early three furrow 12" Kvernland with Hydrein boards. On the day the best work in this class was done by three furrow 12" Kvernlands with no. 28 boards.
I am ploughing 7" deep, which is just over the minimum depth of 17cm. As can be seen, my problem is broken furrows. All comments welcome - I am just a beginner !

By the way, there seems to be a lot of confusion about what is allowed in the classic class ( not that it directly affects me). I checked with the Society of Ploughmen Hydreins ARE eligible in the Classic Class but NOT super Hydreins onwards. A lot of local matches are not aware of the correct rule on this. It is different in Scotland where Hydreins are NOT allowed in the Classic.
Ground looks kinda solid and slabby causing broken furrows IMO!
 

Howard150

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Location
Yorkshire
Correct !
I have worked out that the odd furrow is caused by my middle disc being set a little too narrow resulting in a light middle furrow - I was adjusting the front to match, leaving a big back furrow. Good advice - in the workshop before I venture out on Sunday !

All things which can be sorted in the field. There is only so much you can do in the workshop.
Those bodies, the original Hydreins, were never intended as match bodies and will never ever compare with what can be done with 8's or 25's. The Hydrex from 1957 was probably more of a match body than a Hydrein ever could have been. Hydrein Specials are probably the next progression, with Super Hydreins close at heel.
Check the width that they plough at because despite the 12" sticker on the frame, you might well find that they actually plough nearer to 12.5. Check that the cross shaft is in the right place side for side (buck lever central or 1 notch back with furrow side crank central / marginally forward of central) with the plough ploughing the correct width front furrow.
 

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
Morning Dave,
Indeed you could sort those problems in the field, but the workshop would be more comfortable this time of year! Be an idea to have a proper check of everything, KV beam tubes and end plates do seem to vary, two new match ploughs that I know of had to be remachined to get everything in line!
 

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
Just picked up on this conversation. I am currently starting to compete with an original 3F Kvernland Hydrein. Looking to improve my work - the Hydreins seem to leave broken furrows in heavy going. Are super Hydreins the way forward or should I upgrade to a more modern board ? The guys with no. 28's seem to be producing good furrows. Appreciate comments/advise.
Looking at your photos again, the open furrow in your finish seems too wide, if you can ,pull the boards back until you can only just get the tyre in, that may help the furrow stay together.
 

wuddy

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Location
Scottish Borders
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This is my attempt in the three furrow open class at Bridlington YFC last Sat. I am ploughing with a very early three furrow 12" Kvernland with Hydrein boards. On the day the best work in this class was done by three furrow 12" Kvernlands with no. 28 boards.
I am ploughing 7" deep, which is just over the minimum depth of 17cm. As can be seen, my problem is broken furrows. All comments welcome - I am just a beginner !

By the way, there seems to be a lot of confusion about what is allowed in the classic class ( not that it directly affects me). I checked with the Society of Ploughmen Hydreins ARE eligible in the Classic Class but NOT super Hydreins onwards. A lot of local matches are not aware of the correct rule on this. It is different in Scotland where Hydreins are NOT allowed in the Classic.
Hydreins are allowed at the Scottish
 

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