Superglide suspension

[Colliedog]

Many of The Farming Forum regulars will have seen or followed my posts over the last 18 months aimed at sharing information to improve the suspension on their tractors. Fate has taken an unexpected turn for me as many members have asked me to build kits for them. I think I have helped fellow members improve most brands of tractor but as my background and knowledge has been in CNH equipment I have decided to concentrate on these first. Not being someone to do something by halves, I decided to research and develop two kits that could be easily fitted to upgrade many models of Case and New Holland tractors. The project has taken over 12 months and a lot of money to optimise the performance of these kits.
However I am finally pleased to share with you our new company 'Superglide Suspension' More details can be found on the website www.superglidesuspension.com

There are currently two kits available.

Superglide Cab Suspension is an air suspension upgrade for tractors equipped with pneumatics brakes.

Superglide Front Suspension is dual accumulator upgrade that houses the flow control valve to provide softer suspension with more travel for tractors in the mid sized sector.

The kits are built to the highest standard using local engineering companies as well as high quality components such as Hydac and Monroe. The kits should provide a long service life and we are hoping to grow the Superglide Suspension brand image to help residual values of your tractor. We have asked to work with the dealer network to supply and fit the kits, we are also able to supply kits directly however, the front suspension does require a calibration using a specialist service tool. I have worked very hard to keep the design simple, reliable and affordable. Each kit has been priced a £995 plus vat & delivery. I have had both kits working on my own tractor for some time now and feel this represents very good value for the improvements you gain in comfort.

I would like to thank everyone who has helped with this project I have met and chatted to some truly great people who have given me some very useful ideas and input. Please have a look at the website and follow Superglide Suspension on social media. Also feel free to contact me for any help. Hopefully we will be able to create many more comfortable tractors!

Jamie Hawkins

 

[Tommy]

Fair play to you. It amazes me how someone can improve on something that has had a bucket load of r and d money thrown at it at the factory but someone who actually drives the things an knows what’s needed can better them. If you can do anything for a MF 8400 let me know

 

[Colliedog]

Thanks @Tommy There were times when I thought I had got a bit carried away with my R&D cost though!

 

[Colliedog]

It’s been a pretty busy week launching the company. The kits seem to have created lots of interest. We have contacted all the dealers in the UK and Ireland, if we managed to get through to the right person they all seemed keen to offer this to customers looking for extra comfort in there tractors.
As an owner operator doing around 1000hrs per year I feel the kits have made a big difference to spending a long day in the cab. Hopefully we will get some feedback and opinions soon to know whether the project is a success!

 

[Rob5150]

Anyone fitted one to Puma/t7 yet? Any feedback?

 

[Sebastian77]

Fair play to you. It amazes me how someone can improve on something that has had a bucket load of r and d money thrown at it at the factory but someone who actually drives the things an knows what’s needed can better them. If you can do anything for a MF 8400 let me know

I would be surprised if much at all gets spent on R&D for cab suspension. It's all very dated technology, most of which been around in HGVs for decades

 

[Colliedog]

Anyone fitted one to Puma/t7 yet? Any feedback?

Hi @Rob5150 There are a few cab suspension kits gone out to TFF members so hopefully someone will be able to review those kits for you. As for the front suspension kits I have only just got the first few out and I can't currently think of any TFF members who have one fitted yet. I have got some other contacts who would probably chat to you about them. I also offer a satisfaction guarantee so if your not happy for what ever reason you can send it back within 14 days for a refund. The feedback I have received so far has been very promising!

 

[Andrew]

Looks good, any plans to make a kit for JCB loadalls?

 

[Colliedog]

Looks good, any plans to make a kit for JCB loadalls?

Thanks! Unfortunately a complete rebuild of the cab mounts comes under ROPS & FOPS regulations so is a very expensive job to do. A really good air seat and well maintained boom suspension is my best advice for that one!

 

[Andrew]

Thanks! Unfortunately a complete rebuild of the cab mounts comes under ROPS & FOPS regulations so is a very expensive job to do. A really good air seat and well maintained boom suspension is my best advice for that one!

Thanks, got both of those but used to Fastrac comfort!

 

[powerontheland]

@Colliedog I came across your FB page the other day and gave it a like. Whats the cost for a T6.175 please.? PM if you wish..

Oh and good luck, looks like you have had a great start

 

[Colliedog]

Thanks, got both of those but used to Fastrac comfort!

You have been spoilt then!

 

[Colliedog]

@Colliedog I came across your FB page the other day and gave it a like. Whats the cost for a T6.175 please.? PM if you wish..

Oh and good luck, looks like you have had a great start

Thank you it’s certainly creating lots of interest at the moment. Each kit is priced at £995 plus delivery and vat if you pm me the year and your postcode I can quote delivery price and availability.

 

[155tm]

Morning @Colliedog

As a fastrac user who needs more power & has plumped for a second hand t7.270 I am guessing you will recommend your air cab suspension. Does it help with that side to side motion that you tend to get with the new holland cab and the undulating subsided roads we have around here (you wont know the roads but...). And how is development coming along with improving the front suspension, do you want a lwb mule to play with?

Cheers!

 

[Elpresidente]

Morning @Colliedog

As a fastrac user who needs more power & has plumped for a second hand t7.270 I am guessing you will recommend your air cab suspension. Does it help with that side to side motion that you tend to get with the new holland cab and the undulating subsided roads we have around here (you wont know the roads but...). And how is development coming along with improving the front suspension, do you want a lwb mule to play with?

Cheers!

I’ve got a Puma 150 and I totally agree with what you said about the side to side motion of the cab which is amplified by the subsided roads. I also have a Claas Arion 530 and that hardly has any side to side motion. I’ve been a bad back sufferer for the last 30 years and the Class has been a game changer. I’ll be watching this thread with interest.

 

[Drillman]

Morning @Colliedog

As a fastrac user who needs more power & has plumped for a second hand t7.270 I am guessing you will recommend your air cab suspension. Does it help with that side to side motion that you tend to get with the new holland cab and the undulating subsided roads we have around here (you wont know the roads but...). And how is development coming along with improving the front suspension, do you want a lwb mule to play with?

Cheers!

Your posh new blue monster should have a fancy front suspension set up anyway. It’s peasants like me who only have Swb versions who suffer the most

 

[Colliedog]

Morning @Colliedog

As a fastrac user who needs more power & has plumped for a second hand t7.270 I am guessing you will recommend your air cab suspension. Does it help with that side to side motion that you tend to get with the new holland cab and the undulating subsided roads we have around here (you wont know the roads but...). And how is development coming along with improving the front suspension, do you want a lwb mule to play with?

Cheers!

The cab air suspension upgrade on a lwb does help a lot, the air springs are more progressive in nature which helps with the side swaying providing you have the ride height adjusted properly. In regards to the front suspension, accumulators can lose up to 30% of their gas volume annually yet none of the manufactures recommend checking pressures in the service schedule. The front suspension on the lwb tractors is CNH's best system which works well if its all in top service condition. The later 4b onwards tractors have a dual accumulator system but the earlier old shape roof tractors can be improved by charging the standard accumulator to 30bar (they are 20bar standard). I have discovered over the last few months how many tractors are running around with flat, broken or even smaller and cheaper 1ltr accumulators fitted! I have replacement 2ltr accumulators pre-charged to 30bar in stock at competitive prices but if your have a good one it can make a cheap upgrade.

 

[Colliedog]

I’ve got a Puma 150 and I totally agree with what you said about the side to side motion of the cab which is amplified by the subsided roads. I also have a Claas Arion 530 and that hardly has any side to side motion. I’ve been a bad back sufferer for the last 30 years and the Class has been a game changer. I’ll be watching this thread with interest.

The Claas (old Renault) cab suspension is a great system very simple and uses an antiroll bar to reduce side swaying, you can even adjust it to chose between a softer ride or less sideway roll. which has always been the trade off when setting up passive suspension systems.

 

[Wreckit Ralf]

Do the current SWB T7s have the dual accumulator setup? Our T7 is quite rough. In Fairness it's an improvment over the old T6, but it's nowhere near as smooth as a John Deere with TLS, for example.

 

[155tm]

The cab air suspension upgrade on a lwb does help a lot, the air springs are more progressive in nature which helps with the side swaying providing you have the ride height adjusted properly. In regards to the front suspension, accumulators can lose up to 30% of their gas volume annually yet none of the manufactures recommend checking pressures in the service schedule. The front suspension on the lwb tractors is CNH's best system which works well if its all in top service condition. The later 4b onwards tractors have a dual accumulator system but the earlier old shape roof tractors can be improved by charging the standard accumulator to 30bar (they are 20bar standard). I have discovered over the last few months how many tractors are running around with flat, broken or even smaller and cheaper 1ltr accumulators fitted! I have replacement 2ltr accumulators pre-charged to 30bar in stock at competitive prices but if your have a good one it can make a cheap upgrade.

Thank you @Colliedog I guess a 2018 model will be the later dual accumulator system then. Can we check & charge these pressures if necessary? Are we aiming for 30bar and I guess something different in the other accumulator to give a progressive damping rate?

& I am sorry gang but there is nothing else out there like the Fastrac for comfort. The 4000 series are hydraulic springs all round & are even better than the coil or coil & hydraulic systems on earlier Fastracs.

When we had a Claas here on demo that seemed to have similar side to side motion as the New Holland (I am comparing them all with a Fastrac). Tyre pressures, sizes and carcass stiffness (new v older tyres) all seem to factor into the equation.