Supersteer or not

[Mhfarrier]

What's the low down on a new holland supersteer?
Decent system or an added extra just waiting to break?

 

[Frankzy]

Well it comes at the expense of front suspension which settles the debate right away in my opinion...

 

[Matthew Britton]

A mate here bought a super steer tractor last year. He reckons its bloody dangerous on the road and not for inexperienced as the slightest touch of the wheel and it’s off!

 

[daveydiesel1]

Does nh still make it? Used to drive a tm135 speedsteer. As said above very sensitive on the road but u get used to it but very handy on headlands and tight gates. Never gave any trouble in around 7-8000 hours

 

[db9go]

It’s all down to the driver we have had it 20+ year no problem
On three tractors

 

[daveydiesel1]

Think u needa be good mates with the grease gun.

 

[ollandroverman]

If I remember correctly, there is the older Supersteer system posters are talking about, that pivots it's entire front axle to enhance the steering angles, and a newer system that instead automatically utilises the independent brakes to assist the tractor turning.
Which type is the OP asking about?

 

[daveydiesel1]

If I remember correctly, there is the older Supersteer system posters are talking about, that pivots it's entire front axle to enhance the steering angles, and a newer system that instead automatically utilises the independent brakes to assist the tractor turning.
Which type is the OP asking about?

Not driven that newer type but surely side braking is really bad practise as its bad for the brakes and the diff.nh has enough brake problems without doin that. Local firm would be fond of sidebraking in tight gates and when hitchin up stuf or reversing and they had the diffs go on 2 tms, cant be coincidence as i never heard of any other tms blowin the diff

 

[v8willy]

Was told by a man that had one that you can't set a straight like across a field with it as it's too sensative, spud drills or the like.

 

[db9go]

Some people have never driven a tractor with out power steering just old fashion no power steering if you get on a tractor with out P A S you have to hold the steering different.
Its the same with super steer its different and you get used to it and you can drive just as straight
It came out in 1994

 

[Mhfarrier]

It's the one where the axle changes angle. Decide its not for me. I think it's just another thing to break and another thing that makes it less user friendly.
I need to get one that the ladies( wife and daughter) will drive in the yard so don't want anything unnecessary

 

[HarryB97]

Can’t you turn it off like you can on a Valtra?

 

[fiatf130]

Valtras don't have super steer. It's unique to newholland as far as I know.

 

[HarryB97]

Valtras don't have super steer. It's unique to newholland as far as I know.

Valtra call it fast steer which is basically the same, half a turn of the wheel is full lock and you can adjust the sensitivity

 

[Farmer Roy]

Was told by a man that had one that you can't set a straight like across a field with it as it's too sensative, spud drills or the like.

sorry, but that is bull shît
I owned one for nearly 8000 hrs of contract planting work, including row crops of cotton, sorghum etc etc. Initially hand steering using marker arms & then auto steer for the last 2000 hours.
It could drive just as straight as any other tractor

the front axle didn’t swing out until the wheels had reached a certain angle. It certainly didn’t come into play if making small corrections to steering while planting or doing other field work, only when turning on the headlands

 

[snipe]

Valtra call it fast steer which is basically the same, half a turn of the wheel is full lock and you can adjust the sensitivity

I think people are getting confused. Super steer is where the front axle slides across to allow the wheels to turn sharper.

 

[Farmer Roy]

Not driven that newer type but surely side braking is really bad practise as its bad for the brakes and the diff.nh has enough brake problems without doin that. Local firm would be fond of sidebraking in tight gates and when hitchin up stuf or reversing and they had the diffs go on 2 tms, cant be coincidence as i never heard of any other tms blowin the diff

err, there would be thousands of JD & Case Magnums here with 1000’s of hours in them being used in the irrigated cotton industry especially, where turning brakes are used at every headland turn . . .

never heard of any issues, unless running spread duals ( rear duals 1 metre apart to fit down the rows ), which DID put a lot of stress on things

 

[Farmer Roy]

One added advantage of the NH SUPERSTEER was that when backing up to an implement, if you were slightly off centre, by swinging the steering wheel you could move the drawbar or 3pt linkage to the left or right to line things up, similar ( but obviously not as extreme ) to an articulated tractor

 

[daveydiesel1]

err, there would be thousands of JD & Case Magnums here with 1000’s of hours in them being used in the irrigated cotton industry especially, where turning brakes are used at every headland turn . . .

never heard of any issues, unless running spread duals ( rear duals 1 metre apart to fit down the rows ), which DID put a lot of stress on things

Side brakes are fine if using them with rear mounted kit raised but not when haulin trailers

 

[Farmer Roy]

Side brakes are fine if using them with rear mounted kit raised but not when haulin trailers

yeah, we don’t really haul trailers much, so I wasn’t really thinking about that