Supply chain issues?

BobGreen

Member
Location
Lancs
What are you waiting for that was due days/weeks/months ago?

I had months to wait for parts for a hedge cutter ordered in January arrived end of March! A new combi drill ordered October due March still hasn’t arrived, pins for the power Harrow tines on the old one took about 3 weeks arrive, the tines a week instead of next day/48hours of normal.

I’m told cement is in short supply as we go to start concreting.....

Local ag merchants told me the other day he’s out of stock of so much timber/ fencing products plus long lead times on cattle/sheep handling stuff, some items been on order for months. Things are in a right mess!!
Z purlins, box profile sheets, steel, timber, bolts, fixings ...... the list goes on and the price goes up !
 

Ali_Maxxum

Member
Location
Chepstow, Wales
Wooden posts, gates, both metal and wooden, wire. Heard of 10-12 week wait for suppliers for wire, the same for water tanks. Cement and post mix I have heard of limits and shortages but we've been alright to get as much as we want like normal. I personally think a lot of the fencing shortage is due to people being home for the last 14months and have money to spend and everyone is having some sort of building work done, extensions, porches, the amount of garden fencing being done is unreal.

Try buying a van, new or used by the sounds of it.... mini diggers the same.

General machinery parts still seem about right, but if you want anything new.... If we ordered a new tractor now we wouldn't see it before the end of the year.

Enquired about some chain harrows earlier in the season, they were looking at 8 to 10 weeks, wanted a new mat for ours, was told 6-8 weeks, did some poking and prodding and got it here in 10 days...

Heard of loaders ordered in January still not arrived at dealers. We were waiting a month (past promised deliver date) for a loader bucket.

Also heard of a big Irish trailer manufacturer could double their capacity over night if they could get staff, apparently if you want a trailer from them you're looking at a 54 week lead time.... may be why so many new trailer manufacturers keep popping up, all of them busy, who keeps buying all these trailers?!
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
I’ve ordered all my earthwearing parts a few weeks ago.asked if everything was in stock and told yes but not all turned up and they were waiting for it when I enquired.did get sent 40 packs of nuts and bolts instead of 40 nuts and bolts that I got asked for.that has finally been sorted after 3 weeks but still waiting for credit note.on building materials,cement is in short supply as is lots of things.we found the last 1500 ibstock red rustics (bricks) in the country last week.steel is massivly expensive too and a bucket I enquired about 16 months ago went from£324 to just over £600 couple weeks ago.i think europe is punishing us for brexit
nick...
Its nothing to do with brexit nick. Basically every country is trying to build its self out of recession caused by CV-19. This has created huge demand. Social distancing and closures due to CV-19 have cuased massive shortage. These two together have created this issue. The steel used for certain machines has gone up about 300%... Thats if you can actaully get it. Most bought in parts are up between 30-60%... Again if you can get them.
 

Bongodog

Member
I understand that we now have in the region of 12 cement factories in the UK, and some of them have recently been closed for maintenance. Whilst concentrating production of commodities to a very small number of sites looks good for raw efficiency and lowest possible cost of production it then has the possibility of short supply when it all goes wrong.
Every so often there's a shortage of something, a couple of years ago it was CO2 due to most of it coming from a couple of plants.
Presently everything seems short, some of it is down to suppliers being hesitant to place orders when they couldn't see what was happening, some is down to factories disrupted due to covid and some down to our changing lifestyle over the past year. Last year I toyed with the idea of an inflatable kayak, nothing to be had as lots of other people had thought of it 1st, just recently, wanted a new bike, quoted September for delivery, hardly surprising whne you see just how many people are out pedalling now, new greenhouse quoted 26 weeks. Lots of people who have drawn their usual salary for working at home or been on furlough have been better off than when they worked in the office etc. With no foreign holidays for a year and no meals out for many months they have money burning a hole in their pockets.
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
I'd happily work all summer for decent money and doing reasonable work but you try finding it.
Well... if you hadn’t been so rude, you’d have been welcomed into both Suffolk and Norfolk where good drivers (is that you or do you break things? ) could take their pick of summer jobs. The best ones won’t ever turn up for an Interview unless you have Fendts and big Claas combine !
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
Its nothing to do with brexit nick. Basically every country is trying to build its self out of recession caused by CV-19. This has created huge demand. Social distancing and closures due to CV-19 have cuased massive shortage. These two together have created this issue. The steel used for certain machines has gone up about 300%... Thats if you can actaully get it. Most bought in parts are up between 30-60%... Again if you can get them.
That's about right Rob. Its affecting most industries if not all in the manufacturing sector
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
SIP struggling to send you gear Martin?
Actually no supplies have been ok. Getting a bit thin now but not too serious. For sure 2022 season sale machines might though as lead times for all bought in components are silly now. In sourcing is the key word now so big investment going on, on that front so I hear. Haven’t been to Slovenia since August 2019 and not likely to get there until this August at the earliest. That’s a whole 2 years!!! Very strange. Think I need to win lottery, buy a garage and a MK11 and go and bend it (probably!). Fun though eh?
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Actually no supplies have been ok. Getting a bit thin now but not too serious. For sure 2022 season sale machines might though as lead times for all bought in components are silly now. In sourcing is the key word now so big investment going on, on that front so I hear. Haven’t been to Slovenia since August 2019 and not likely to get there until this August at the earliest. That’s a whole 2 years!!! Very strange. Think I need to win lottery, buy a garage and a MK11 and go and bend it (probably!). Fun though eh?

Putting a big investment (esp with brexit/Covid complications) in my mk1. Ironically charging top spec ally bda for a top spec twin cam - so I can run along side bro in his avenger on the roger albert. All a big gamble, will I even be able to come over in November? Mind, over 20 foreign entries🤷‍♂️
 

thorpe

Member
No cement available at builders merchant. B & Q rationing it to a couple of bags for DIY customers.
How did it get to this? Can’t all be Brexit related. Don’t we produce raw materials here any more? If we don’t then it’s a failure of national industrial strategy.
Oh I know. Let’s cut back food production as well and create another self inflicted problem.
Government asleep at the wheel.
we cut back on store cattle last back but sombody else had them, same amount of beef about.
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
All sounds a bit inflationary; roll on interest rate rises 👍
Cheerful Charlie you are pal. Don’t give banks ideas! They don’t need our help but inflation is going one way at present so outlook is ominous. I wonder how companies like M Sport feel given the outlook for the next few years? Ford are playing a blinder by passing a lot of the day to day risk to Malcolm and his team but get a share of the glory when he succeeds. Clever Ford but they should support him a bit more too at least retaining the best possible drivers. Ooh going off topic now. Sorry folks.
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
A friend had a pallet load of cement delivered the other day, reckoned he would double/treble his money selling it on Ebay. Solar farm here has just started and every fence post they are putting in with Postcrete, so they must have a supply of that from somewhere. I managed to grab 4t of steel rsj's off them that they were going to use for deflection tests and were then surplus!
Fiberglass supplies resin especially has been limited and the price has risen some 30% from my usual supplier.
Restoring an old Mini Cooper 1964 and new parts are hard to get.
My tyre fitter said some implement tyres were on 12 week backorder, he's just buying whatever he can when he can to get him through harvest.
It seems a much bigger problem that people realise but I guess as long as they can get their Starbucks every morning they wont worry about it.
Just about to go through the combine so will be interesting to see if there are any issues re parts for that (NH)
 

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