Now that would be a fun thread. Getting everyone to agree to a standard that suited everybody on TFF. Let alone the rest of the farming community! Anyone care to start a thread to see how far it gets before war breaks out?So are we going to see TFF farm assurance?
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llamedos
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Pieces_of_Eight
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Would you start with an existing FA scheme and throw away all the bits that aren't needed?
Or start with a scheme like TASCC or GTAS that actually means something to merchants and processors?
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You don't need a scheme, as all the legislation is covered by cross compliance rules.
So are we going to see TFF farm assurance?
rather unlikely ! I would just like to see what we have made fit for purpose and realistically achievable and able to add real value #
I would rather work with people to try and sort out a problem rather than against if possible
............and this is the alternative
RT only exists because we all subscribe, if we all stop tomorrow it would be dead in the water
not all
we had a trading standards inspection back along it seemed to cover what was necessary, never cost us a penny, nice chap he liked our cattle he said he done RT inspections as well and that we wouldn't have a problem with it
so whats the point of RT ?
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Trading Standards are concerned with the legalities of buying and selling goods & services, not food safety.
Unless you're suggesting all food producers register with their local EH office too?
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What about all the growers who don't claim subs?
So glad I'm not the only one!
they seemed to look at everything I though relavent
what would affect food safety ? and how do RT police this ?
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Ask the retailers and the processors and merchants who supply them.
"The customer is always right"
the end customer knows f**k all about RT
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Finding mouse sh!t in your grain and then wondering if there is any mouse bait in there also.
they didn't find it, they done nothing to help find it, the mill found it and the right thing was done as a result just the same as it would if there was no such thing as RTFinding mouse sh!t in your grain and then wondering if there is any mouse bait in there also.
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The housewife (or househusband) in the Supermarket knows nothing about farm assurance, but they are not your customer.
Your deal is with a grain merchant or a fatstock buyer (or another farmer if you sell stores). It is these people who decide if you make a profit or a loss when you market your produce.
One farm visit per year, from an independent organisation ( MAFF if they still exist would be my choice) just to root out those who....errrmm....errrrrr... have mouse droppings in their corn.
For arable farms, a check of storage facilities is all that's required. RT have no business poking their noses into diesel storage, or fert spreader calibration etc, etc.
Interestingly, one of the Red Tractoring rules is no bait placed in stores. Kind of wonder if that's not the cause of the problems.....
Can't believe this thread is still running....
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Cross compliance is regulations from DEFRA, regardless if you claim subs or not !
They out trump RT............