Sustainable farming.

[wanton dwarf]

I think, if you ask the stakeholders, they will indicate that you could be sustainable if, going forward, you became regenerative.

....oh, don't mind me, I'm just trying to make up a sentence using all the words and phrases that get right up my nose

Didn't Doctor Who "Regenerate" ?

Doesn't that mean I will live forever and potentially change sex ? Does that mean I can play with my own BooBies ?

 

[Yosemite Sam]

File it in the same folder as the phrase “more needs to be done”, favoured by Jeremy Vine callers to show their strength of commitment to the subject whilst simultaneously providing no details on the “how or what”.

You forgot the best one “Lessons have been learned”

 

[steveR]

I think you need to ask “stakeholders”, another term I detest.

Rarely does a "stakeholder" involved in the farming enviro schemes actually have money involved.... other than the PBF; aka Poor Bloody Farmer, with apologies to the soldiers where the expression came from...!

 

[Bury the Trash]

You know when put the plough on an old Ford fill up with fuel and head off for a days ploughing
This is not sustainable

as compared to what ?

everythings relative im afraid

 

[ski]

I think, if you ask the stakeholders, they will indicate that you could be sustainable if, going forward, you became regenerative.

....oh, don't mind me, I'm just trying to make up a sentence using all the words and phrases that get right up my nose

Don't be so cynical, it really does show that you are not thinking outside the box at all. You need to go on a learning journey so you will embrace diversity and equity and realise that farming has to reimagine itself to achieve a deliverable set of outcomes with clear milestones and be benchmarked against a group of best practice practitioners and will further enhance your continual professional development requirements. I about to run a 3 day course on, £995.00 if you'd like to sign up you'll be amazed at what you didn't know and wonder how you ever managed before..........

 

[steveR]

Don't be so cynical, it really does show that you are not thinking outside the box at all. You need to go on a learning journey so you will embrace diversity and equity and realise that farming has to reimagine itself to achieve a deliverable set of outcomes with clear milestones and be benchmarked against a group of best practice practitioners and will further enhance your continual professional development requirements. I about to run a 3 day course on, £995.00 if you'd like to sign up you'll be amazed at what you didn't know and wonder how you ever managed before..........

With a patter like that, come the Revolution, start running...

Alternatively, organise and run the firing squad!

 

[egbert]

It's just management speak.
Nothing is sustainable if you think about it.

Almost as bad as "future proofing". If I could see the future, I'd of sold the farm and bought apple shares

oh I don't know. I walk after horn heided ewes over a hillside, with a stick and a collie dog. that's pretty sustainable.
mind you, according to monbigot, Princessnutnut and Cwris et al, it's the work of the devil....so i'm as confushed as the Op and everyone else.

 

[ski]

With a patter like that, come the Revolution, start running...

Alternatively, organise and run the firing squad!

The revolution, I fear, is well underway, I jest because there doesn't seem to be many other options at the moment.

 

[kiwi pom]

I think 'sustainable farming' is doing things in a way that wont cause financial and environmental problems in years to come.
The one man to a thousand acres combinable cropping, contract farming systems are starting to cause problems with things like blackgrass and chemicals becoming less effective or being banned because the public see sprayers in the same paddock every week, or a dependency on bought in nitrogen.
The spud guys with poor rotations because they don't have enough ground and plant every 3 or 4 years are putting too much pressure on the soil and aren't getting the yields or quality they should, whilst dealing with increased disease risk.
Dairy farmers milking 1000 cows with only a couple hundred acres, buying in imported feed and then causing pollution problems because they don't have the ground or storage to deal with the slurry.
I suspect the next problem will be around AD plants and continually cropping the same feed stock.
Perhaps the answer is better rotations, more stock in cropping areas, less stock in others and a bit more variety.
We could call it Mixed farming?

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Definition of sustainable​

1: capable of being sustained
2a: of, relating to, or being a method of harvesting or using a resource so that the resource is not depleted or permanently damaged
b: of or relating to a lifestyle involving the use of sustainable methods


It isn't that complicated.
If you think of farming as an annual cycle, if it can be repeated indefinitely, it is sustainable.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Everything is sustainable while the oil wells are running, and sod all is sustainable once they stop... everything else is semantics

 

[Flatlander]

Sustainable for me means minimising the number of delivery vans I need to supply me with expensive inputs.
We are ploughing and power harrowing, and drilling this year and quite enjoying it.

The DD fashion past thru in the late 80s and left a legacy of black grass compaction and ergot. only To be replaced by the plough and power drill combination Guess history really does repeat itself.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Definition of sustainable​

1: capable of being sustained
2a: of, relating to, or being a method of harvesting or using a resource so that the resource is not depleted or permanently damaged
b: of or relating to a lifestyle involving the use of sustainable methods


It isn't that complicated.
If you think of farming as an annual cycle, if it can be repeated indefinitely, it is sustainable.

Not very well without phosphate though and that will be the first of the 'fundamentals ' to run out on the current trajectory apparently.
Sludge and bone will need to be returned to the topsoil somehow, in the future at least.

 

[jonnieboy]

as compared to what ?

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everythings relative im afraid

I was more thinking along the lines of it wasn’t sustainable as it would probably break down before the day was out

 

[Jimdog1]

Regenerative means to restore.

In other words to mend something that's broken.

Admission of guilt is the first step to forgiveness.

It's has no standards, no rules, no checks.
Any one can say the are a regenerative farmer

Forgive me if I am being cynical but I am beginning to think that it is less about repairing the soil and more about influencing the weighting of future government payments.

 

[Sid]

Forgive me if I am being cynical but I am beginning to think that it is less about repairing the soil and more about influencing the weighting of future government payments.

Really?
To sit alongside their consultancy business as well?
Never

 

[Yale]

Is producing food at below cost sustainable?

Can it be done without bps for most?

Finding a way to do the above could possibly be sustainable.

 

[7610 super q]

You know when put the plough on an old Ford fill up with fuel and head off for a days ploughing
This is not sustainable

I wonder what the carbon footprint of a 40 year old tractor and drill is, compared to the manufacture of a new Fendt and no till drill ?

 

[Jackov Altraids]

If you distance yourself from the planet, the simple solution would be to get the very high population of humans to replace machines wherever possible.

It would reduce the use of oil, increase physical and mental health and reduce the shift to completely false and unsustainable lifestyles.

This might be unrealistic but everyone should recognise that we are travelling quickly in the opposite direction and planting a few trees etc. isn't going to make it sustainable.

 

[Henarar]

If you distance yourself from the planet, the simple solution would be to get the very high population of humans to replace machines wherever possible.

It would reduce the use of oil, increase physical and mental health and reduce the shift to completely false and unsustainable lifestyles.

This might be unrealistic but everyone should recognise that we are travelling quickly in the opposite direction and planting a few trees etc. isn't going to make it sustainable.

If you distance yourself from the planet, it don't really matter