T3

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
Most of our wheats haven't had any fungicide this year, looking good so far. Two fields of Zyatt have, showing a bit of rust. Won't grow that again.
Happy to have jumped off the hamster wheel.


Hi, which varieties do you have please?

Here in the Lincolnshire Wash area no fungicides would have led to the following on certain varieties - the pictures below are Bennington and Gleam, but have plenty of others from Skyfall and a number other varieties. May well visit Groundswell, I recall visiting the first event - when you organised lovely weather after a wet early June!

Best wishes, J

PS - these pictures from farms that do not practice direct drilling and regenerative agriculture, do you think that may account for the Yellow Rust? Interested in your views.
 

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Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
Prior to this season I'd have suggested every grower tries an area with no fungicides, but having seen our trials in the south west last week I reckon we're going to see our first serious septoria year since 2014.

Have a field of Mid April sown Irena Spring Barley which has severe epidemic of Rhynco - out near the Lincs coast. I checked back in my emails and it was 2014 last time I saw severe Rynco in Spring Barley in Lincs. And about 1 mile from this years field! But it is only 2 miles from the sea. The weather here in Lincs May 2021 similar to May 2014, but the recent, since May 29, dry, sunny and warm weather may have done more than the Elatus Era applied a few days ago!
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
Prior to this season I'd have suggested every grower tries an area with no fungicides, but having seen our trials in the south west last week I reckon we're going to see ou
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r first serious septoria year since 2014.

Agree, I was shocked at the level of Septoria in the untreated. Because your own crops are treated you are lulled into a false sense of security that it’s all a low disease year. Down here it clearly isn’t.
 

Fromebridge

Member
BASIS
Location
Glos
Agree, I was shocked at the level of Septoria in the untreated. Because your own crops are treated you are lulled into a false sense of security that it’s all a low disease year. Down here it clearly isn’t.
In the Taunton trials untreated Extase looks just like that. On a dirtier variety, programmes of Revystar and Univoq still let through a lot of septoria. I think we've been lulled into a false sense of security with so many low septoria seasons and you've rightly corrected me on several occasions about getting to blasé about fungicide dose. Growers in the south west have very restricted choice of variety and products when growing wheat, only the most disease-resistant varieties and the most expensive fungicide programmes :(
 

martian

DD Moderator
BASE UK Member
Location
N Herts
Hi, which varieties do you have please?

Here in the Lincolnshire Wash area no fungicides would have led to the following on certain varieties - the pictures below are Bennington and Gleam, but have plenty of others from Skyfall and a number other varieties. May well visit Groundswell, I recall visiting the first event - when you organised lovely weather after a wet early June!

Best wishes, J

PS - these pictures from farms that do not practice direct drilling and regenerative agriculture, do you think that may account for the Yellow Rust? Interested in your views.
Crusoe and Extase. We are treating them with nutrients etc and watching closely.
I don't know if direct drilling has helped, though of course I hope it has. I'm working on the principle that healthy crops should be able to see off disease. An agonomist who looked at them last week reckoned they'll do 8.5 tonnes/ha , which is good for us. Many a slip between cup and lip, mind...
 

Flat 10

Member
Location
Fen Edge
Crusoe and Extase. We are treating them with nutrients etc and watching closely.
I don't know if direct drilling has helped, though of course I hope it has. I'm working on the principle that healthy crops should be able to see off disease. An agonomist who looked at them last week reckoned they'll do 8.5 tonnes/ha , which is good for us. Many a slip between cup and lip, mind...
It’s realistic and acceptable for me with my much higher than your inputs but probably not high on a national scale
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
Crusoe and Extase. We are treating them with nutrients etc and watching closely.
I don't know if direct drilling has helped, though of course I hope it has. I'm working on the principle that healthy crops should be able to see off disease. An agonomist who looked at them last week reckoned they'll do 8.5 tonnes/ha , which is good for us. Many a slip between cup and lip, mind...

I doubt the untreated plots of many varieties at the Devon RL site will do 8.5t/Ha.
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
Looked at my DD’d Extase here yesterday. Looking good and absolutely clean as a whistle. No plans for any T3 unless the weather turns bad. Thunderstorms predicted Wednesday night and an odd shower or 2 until the following Wednesday.
I bet we don’t get any and even if we do, I cannot see it being so bad as to justify any T3 whatsoever.

T3’s (and T0’s) are the least most profitable (if any!) of any T in the vast majority of years here. On a disease resistant variety like Extase, it is hardly likely to make sense using them this year.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
plant breeders have had long enough over the years why don't they breed tougher plants that resist or are resilient to disease.??
where dose all the the money from royalties go?

or are they in cahoots/sponsored by fertiliser and fungicide makers?

plenty of forage grass types don't suffer these days ,so no excuses imo.


:unsure:
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
plant breeders have had long enough over the years why don't they breed tougher plants that resist or are resilient to disease.??
where dose all the the money from royalties go?

or are they in cahoots/sponsored by fertiliser and fungicide makers?

plenty of forage grass types don't suffer these days ,so no excuses imo.


:unsure:
Look at how the recommended list is put together. It’s yield under an extreme level of fungicide input. A variety with just a tiny bit less yield but robust disease resistance doesn’t get on the recommended list and so never sells in any volume, so the seed breeders never make any money from it. It’s as simple as that.
 

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