Tackling succession (or not)

[ollie989898]

Forget it. Plenty of opportunity about for people motivated and young enough.

 

[som farmer]

Do look up Proprietary Estoppel. See if it applies. Ask yourself ,do I want to go down this route? Make a decision
Walk away.

that's for after they have departed, his problem is now, and his age is going up, he is only here once, live should be enjoyed. Sitting here now, having crippled myself, by slogging my guts out, for ungrateful father, who moaned I didn't work hard enough, I really wish I had travelled, or had holidays when I was younger, instead of milking the cows, so he wouldn't have to do it etc etc.

 

[le bon paysan]

that's for after they have departed, his problem is now, and his age is going up, he is only here once, live should be enjoyed. Sitting here now, having crippled myself, by slogging my guts out, for ungrateful father, who moaned I didn't work hard enough, I really wish I had travelled, or had holidays when I was younger, instead of milking the cows, so he wouldn't have to do it etc etc.

I don't think your right. Proprietary estoppels applies while the parties are living or deceased. Only the OP will know the exact circumstances. After all his work the OP is entitled to recompense.
As for the rest of your post, its very familiar.

 

[som farmer]

I don't think your right. Proprietary estoppels applies while the parties are living or deceased. Only the OP will know the exact circumstances. After all his work the OP is entitled to recompense.

I stand to be corrected, I also have a sneaky feeling, I might be 'reading' up on this soon, 1/2 of me wants to, the other 1/2 not so keen, for all the potential hassle !

 

[Chae1]

Thank you all for the comments and suggestions

Bit of an update. All was going well this week, helped my mother with some legal stuff and every morning was sorting sheep with Dad talking about the future.
Wednesday I asked if they were interested in buying timber that I had paid to be milled last summer. WIth agreement form parents, plan was to put up a log cabin to support diversification but parents decided they didn't want this a couple of months later. So £1,500 later I want to sell the wood just to recover my costs. My father wants it but my Mother doesn't so next thing I'm getting reminded about the need to vacate by end of March.

Spoke to my father today to see if we could discuss at a time to suit - response was to get very angry and say that "I don't fit in with the family". That's me told!!!

Why are you helping your mum with legal stuff?

A few posts above you said she'd told you she wants nothing more to do with you.

Get out, sever all contact. Mobile numbers, email addresses.

They don't deserve you. Just get away and make a fresh start. You sound like a capable individual.

 

[le bon paysan]

I stand to be corrected, I also have a sneaky feeling, I might be 'reading' up on this soon, 1/2 of me wants to, the other 1/2 not so keen, for all the potential hassle !

Oh you should definitely read up on it . Know where you are before you decide which way to go.
Good luck.

 

[le bon paysan]

Just googled
Agricultural cases of Proprietary Estoppel.
Should be taught at Ag College and be compulsory reading before the age of 21.

 

[honeyend]

Its hard when its family, its not just about money, its accepting that they do not really care about you, or they think of you as just a child who they can bully and blackmail. They dangle a thread that you want to hold on to.
I would go to the CAB and find out your rights re your tenancy, I would get everything on an official footing as quickly as possible. Take anything that yours and either move it or sell it.
Its going to be tough, but imagine if you are still in this,' you do this or', in five years time. You have no idea how much they owe, never mind how they will divide things.
When my mum died and we saw the will, it dropped a bomb not amoung me and my siblings, but my step-siblings, because it revealed how my step-father planned the leave the farm if he had died first, and it was not even divided equally, and the boys got more than the girls, even though none of them farmed. I feel like framing my mum's will as it's a classic WTF, what were they thinking. As it was in the end there was a lot of debt, and a lot of legal bills. Get out while you are well, and working, and can have a pension pot, it's really best not to expect anything.

 

[averageguy54]

Thank you all for the comments and suggestions

Bit of an update. All was going well this week, helped my mother with some legal stuff and every morning was sorting sheep with Dad talking about the future.
Wednesday I asked if they were interested in buying timber that I had paid to be milled last summer. WIth agreement form parents, plan was to put up a log cabin to support diversification but parents decided they didn't want this a couple of months later. So £1,500 later I want to sell the wood just to recover my costs. My father wants it but my Mother doesn't so next thing I'm getting reminded about the need to vacate by end of March.

Spoke to my father today to see if we could discuss at a time to suit - response was to get very angry and say that "I don't fit in with the family". That's me told!!!

You've been told. Pack your bags and load the lumber on a truck and don't look back. You've wasted enough time now. If father wants the lumber get cash.

 

[gatepost]

Oh why can't the farming fraternity get their head around the idea, it's better to give with warm hands. this same basic scenario happened next door to me, ended up with broken ribs and a farm sale , and now the silly old coot is sitting on his millions in a little bungalow in suburbia with no family talking to him.

 

[Green farmer]

You'll find any number of threads on here with that line, or one like it... 'it'll all be yours one day'... I know at least six who've had that for decades and it's still going on in four cases. Of the other two, one got royally screwed when the farm was sold to split evenly with three siblings - who'd done SFA for it. The last did inherit everything a couple of years ago, when he was well over 50!

Good luck.

Couldnt agree more. Quiet often its the child with the biggest heart that gives the most. No guarantee of reward at the end of it unfortunately. Something unnatural and heartbreaking about a parent screwing over their child with empty promises.

 

[Tubbylew]

Couldnt agree more. Quiet often its the child with the biggest heart that gives the most. No guarantee of reward at the end of it unfortunately.

Like granny used to say, "treated like a dishcloth, often used, but little thought of."
't has ever been thus.