Taiwan

[Bill the Bass]

Seems like serious trouble brewing around Taiwan. No doubt developing for some time? As part of the larger geo-political picture, was the goal of creating AUKUS (no doubt greased by the Australian trade deal) a major aim of pulling out of the EU? according to Boris yesterday, AUKUS would not be possible if the UK were members of the EU. Was the west's rapid exit from Afghanistan a re-aligning of military assets to show solidarity and build against the threat of China to Taiwan?

Looked at in this light, things make (some) sense. What would be the point of a tin pot European army if China suddenly takes control of the south east pacific? the area of the world where most of the future wealth and growth will be generated? If China persists, the EU will have no option but to fall in behind the AUKUS deal despite the bluster from the French.

 

[arcobob]

Seems like serious trouble brewing around Taiwan. No doubt developing for some time? As part of the larger geo-political picture, was the goal of creating AUKUS (no doubt greased by the Australian trade deal) a major aim of pulling out of the EU? according to Boris yesterday, AUKUS would not be possible if the UK were members of the EU. Was the west's rapid exit from Afghanistan a re-aligning of military assets to show solidarity and build against the threat of China to Taiwan?

Looked at in this light, things make (some) sense. What would be the point of a tin pot European army if China suddenly takes control of the south east pacific? the area of the world where most of the future wealth and growth will be generated? If China persists, the EU will have no option but to fall in behind the AUKUS deal despite the bluster from the French.

There is far more to this AUKUS than meats the eye though I am not sure that Boris is being entirely truthful about the EU implication regarding our involvement. It may be an exaggeration on his part or he may have more knowledge than he can divulge.
The French reaction is yet another in a long line of tantrums which are starting to become a tad tiring.

 

[Ashtree]

Seems like serious trouble brewing around Taiwan. No doubt developing for some time? As part of the larger geo-political picture, was the goal of creating AUKUS (no doubt greased by the Australian trade deal) a major aim of pulling out of the EU? according to Boris yesterday, AUKUS would not be possible if the UK were members of the EU. Was the west's rapid exit from Afghanistan a re-aligning of military assets to show solidarity and build against the threat of China to Taiwan?

Looked at in this light, things make (some) sense. What would be the point of a tin pot European army if China suddenly takes control of the south east pacific? the area of the world where most of the future wealth and growth will be generated? If China persists, the EU will have no option but to fall in behind the AUKUS deal despite the bluster from the French.

High rank former USA Navy officer gave a very succinct review of the Taiwan situation recentky.
Basically, China learned from the American “shock and awe” tactic in Iraq. They are building military assets at such a pace, that in a mere few years, they will be able to totally overwhelm Taiwan in a matter of days. General acknowledged, USA world be utterly powerless to do anything effective about it.
As for Britain paddling about in those seas, keep the factor 50 at hand, and careful of the jelly fish. If you observe a bit of a racket, with Chinese air and sea equipment speeding across to Taiwan, get under a tree somewhere, and for God’s sake, don’t utter a word.

 

[Roger Perry]

With the weakling biden in charge, China will play America to full advantage.
The U.S. is sworn to defend Taiwan so cannot imagine China would invade, if it did all hell would break loose.
This situation would never have arisen under the previous administration.
How long does it take to realize that China is not your friend..?

 

[robs1]

High rank former USA Navy officer gave a very succinct review of the Taiwan situation recentky.
Basically, China learned from the American “shock and awe” tactic in Iraq. They are building military assets at such a pace, that in a mere few years, they will be able to totally overwhelm Taiwan in a matter of days. General acknowledged, USA world be utterly powerless to do anything effective about it.
As for Britain paddling about in those seas, keep the factor 50 at hand, and careful of the jelly fish. If you observe a bit of a racket, with Chinese air and sea equipment speeding across to Taiwan, get under a tree somewhere, and for God’s sake, don’t utter a word.

Well if they do invade ALL the world will have to take a stand, any sensible company and country should be preparing to produce the products we currently buy from there so we can just ruin them economically, money talks , it will be a first of course if Ireland stands up and takes a stand mind perhaps they will do as germany and the EU tells them to do as usual

 

[nivilla1982]

Why Taiwan remains calm in the face of unprecedented military pressure from China

Many Taiwanese see the Chinese military display as more of a show than a preparation for an all-out invasion. So, what is Beijing’s ultimate plan?

theconversation.com

 

[Ashtree]

With the weakling biden in charge, China will play America to full advantage.
The U.S. is sworn to defend Taiwan so cannot imagine China would invade, if it did all hell would break loose.
This situation would never have arisen under the previous administration.
How long does it take to realize that China is not your friend..?

Incorrect. America has not sworn to defend Taiwan. America’s real position is one of “strategic ambiguity”! If China decides to take Taiwan, America will keep its head down.

 

[nivilla1982]

The USA is obliged by it's Taiwan Relations Act to "provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan."

 

[Ashtree]

The USA is obliged by it's Taiwan Relations Act to "provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan."

And the ambiguity is in “maintaining its capacity”, as opposed to “using its capacity”, to resist coercion etc.

 

[Bill the Bass]

Incorrect. America has not sworn to defend Taiwan. America’s real position is one of “strategic ambiguity”! If China decides to take Taiwan, America will keep its head down.

There are apparently two US aircraft carriers and HMS Queen Elizabeth, part of a larger flotilla, along with UK nuclear subs carrying out training operations alongside Japanese subs in the south east pacific. I think there has been a strategic mobilisation of the wests military capacity to this area of the world away from the middle east whilst the Chinese air force are carrying out operations over Taiwan.

I dont pretend to know whats happening, I havent a clue, it just all seems too coincidental to me and a bit unnerving.

 

[nivilla1982]

Japan also had the first airplane land on their "Helicopter Destroyer" (Seems comparable to a light aircraft carrier) this week. A USMC F-35B. The first time since WW2 a plane has operated from a Japanese carrier.

 

[Muck Spreader]

There is far more to this AUKUS than meats the eye though I am not sure that Boris is being entirely truthful about the EU implication regarding our involvement. It may be an exaggeration on his part or he may have more knowledge than he can divulge.
The French reaction is yet another in a long line of tantrums which are starting to become a tad tiring.

I think you mean there is less AUKUS than meets the eye. It most likely will just turn out to be a way of selling some surplus US subs to the Australians, these will be based and serviced in the the US or one of their Asian bases. Basically giving the US 8 extra submarines to deploy in that region at no extra cost.

 

[manhill]

Is the 3 Gorges dam system China's Achilles heel? Could Taiwan take it out?
No doubt the US could.

 

[betweenthelines]

No one would step in if China decide to annex Taiwan.
China is to strong economically to mess with.

On a similar note, the West didn't really do much when Putin annexes neighbouring states as they could ruin the Western Economy if they felt like it

Our "leaders" are being unusually quiet at Russia cutting the cost of gas to help out the British economy.

 

[robs1]

No one would step in if China decide to annex Taiwan.
China is to strong economically to mess with.

On a similar note, the West didn't really do much when Putin annexes neighbouring states as they could ruin the Western Economy if they felt like it

Our "leaders" are being unusually quiet at Russia cutting the cost of gas to help out the British economy.

The uk uses hardly any Russian gas, about 1% iirc

 

[Martin Holden]

Incorrect. America has not sworn to defend Taiwan. America’s real position is one of “strategic ambiguity”! If China decides to take Taiwan, America will keep its head down.

How do you know?

 

[Danllan]

High rank former USA Navy officer gave a very succinct review of the Taiwan situation recentky...

Which one, who?

And the ambiguity is in “maintaining its capacity”, as opposed to “using its capacity”, to resist coercion etc.

No. You are trying to look clever, but you haven't read what you write about or done any homework surrounding it, and you are making that very, very clear.

How do you know?

Doesn't, just being a 'cuntrarian' - that's the word he uses to describe himself, he thinks it suggests an intellectual air, but it really just confirms the fool as someone who likes to try and irritate others and has nothing to offer beyond that*.



*The idiot sometimes tries to appear high-minded and moral, but then goes and supports anti-humanitarian lawbreaking. (because it's by the EU and its minions its alright you see...)

 

[nivilla1982]

US troops secretly training Taiwanese since last year: report - France 24

US troops secretly training Taiwanese since last year: report

www.france24.com

 

[Ashtree]

US troops secretly training Taiwanese since last year: report - France 24

US troops secretly training Taiwanese since last year: report

www.france24.com

Like they trained the Afghani’s, and hightailed it when it suited them.

 

[Roger Perry]

Like they trained the Afghani’s, and hightailed it when it suited them.

Except that debacle was firmly on the idiot bidens' shoulders, twenty years sacrifice just thrown away............no wonder then that China is taunting him.