Talking sh1t

[neilo]

I'm sure it's been covered somewhere on here before, but what are the rules on septic tanks these days?

If you have one at a property and need to move it, I assume the replacement would have to come up to certain regs. What is required these days? Or do you just do it and pretend it was always there?

 

[serf]

Seen post title !
thought don't do your self down your not as bad as that ...

 

[S J H]

I'm sure it's been covered somewhere on here before, but what are the rules on septic tanks these days?

If you have one at a property and need to move it, I assume the replacement would have to come up to certain regs. What is required these days? Or do you just do it and pretend it was always there?

I’d just get a treatment plant from marsh, they’re not that bad on price

 

[Pan mixer]

I’d just get a treatment plant from marsh, they’re not that bad on price

I did buy one too but I think that you probably need to show that you had planning permission if you want to sell soon.

 

[br jones]

you can put an ordinary septic in ,aslong as you have sufficient area for a drainage system

 

[David.]

Was told last week that an existing septic tank/onion, with a functioning soakaway system is fine. What they are concerned about is discharge into watercourses.

 

[HatsOff]

Yeah proper term is 'drainage field'. In theory they should be designed and based on percolation rates but anything is better than nothing.

If you've the space I'd always go for a septic + drainage field over a treatment plant.

 

[Kidds]

Yeah proper term is 'drainage field'. In theory they should be designed and based on percolation rates but anything is better than nothing.

If you've the space I'd always go for a septic + drainage field over a treatment plant.

Why?

 

[steveR]

Was told last week that an existing septic tank/onion, with a functioning soakaway system is fine. What they are concerned about is discharge into watercourses.

Although the companies flogging treatment kit seem to argue this one....

 

[David.]

So do the guys charging a fortune to change out "illegal" systems for gullible householders with perfectly serviceable septic tanks.
Because the EA won't advise you when they visit, just immediately fine you £10,000.00.

 

[HatsOff]

Why?

Most treatment plants require electricity or a consumable filter material to be replaced and are a bit more sensitive to cleaning products. Whereas a two chamber septic tank is a tried and tested design which can be left for several years before simply being pumped out.

The effluent is nowhere near as a clean as a *properly functioning* treatment plant, but a proper drainage field can be seen as the second phase of the treatment system and before the effluent fully returns to ground water should have been processed. Drainage fields, like the septic tank are robust designs which last a long time before needing to be redone.

 

[Kidds]

I'm thinking to fit a system of some sort and must admit I was erring towards a treatment plant running off solar rather than a septic tank.
Don't mind having a septic tank instead and have plenty of area for drainage field. My concerns were cost of course plus getting it passed by Building Control. Having read up on it in the past it looks like a right pallaver getting a drainage field to their standards.
Digger driver mate reckons you can just run a septic tank into a soakaway made with drainage crates and get it signed off. Not so sure on that one.
Ground is free draining so no issues there as far as I know but it is pretty waterlogged right now as is everywhere as far as I can make out.

Have an empty property that has a treatment plant, electric is just running the bubbler as it has gravity outlet. I am amazed at just how much electric it uses, must be circa £20/month.

 

[HatsOff]

It's all set out in Part H of the building regulations page 31: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/drainage-and-waste-disposal-approved-document-h

If you do it that way and document it then they shouldn't be able to stop you. Although probably worth a conversation to explain the plan, but reference Part H and say that's how you'll do it.

Soakaway crates unfortunately not acceptable. It's confusing terminology because surface water sewers can be discharged into soakaway but not foul water effulent. Although it would be better than nothing they don't provide enough soil contact for the bugs to do that secondary treatment.

 

[br jones]

Why?

No moving parts ,no electrical supply ,nothing to go wrong

 

[Farmer_Joe]

most septic tanks ive seen are literally sh!t, unless you have great free draining soil then the soakaway eventually blocks and then your f**ked, out klargester did 30 years but when it was past it (fibreglass started to deteriorate and soakaway had been iffy for years) we replaced it with a treatment plant with outlet in perforated drainage to a stream, its literally looks like clear water on the outlet.

 

[jackp]

most septic tanks ive seen are literally sh!t, unless you have great free draining soil then the soakaway eventually blocks and then your f**ked, out klargester did 30 years but when it was past it (fibreglass started to deteriorate and soakaway had been iffy for years) we replaced it with a treatment plant with outlet in perforated drainage to a stream, its literally looks like clear water on the outlet.

Is a klargester not a type of treatment plant ? Or is it just a fibreglass septic tank

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Is a klargester not a type of treatment plant ? Or is it just a fibreglass septic tank

sorry to be clear klrgester do now sell a treatment plant the one i had was way before this, just a std septic tank, klargester treatment plants are extremely expensive so i went with a tricel

 

[Barleycorn]

Just put a septic tank and drainage field in our campsite. Bit of a grey area, but got planning permission for the site eventually, after a year of battling the local council and NE about nitrates.
Currently, our local sewage works have been discharging raw sewage into the river since the 6th of February, and underwater videos of turds and paper are appearing on Facebook.
Can't see how they can kick off about a septic tank 200 feet above the river level in chalk with that going on.