Tanker drivers

[Llmmm]

Surely £25 for a 12 hour shift is to make sure they get someone who’s fully ticketed to do the job

The world is heading for a world wide major recession mark my words.During covid money was printed so it is loosing its value everything has sky rocketed.

 

[ollie989898]

They're driving the truck-got to be them or the third party at fault!

But then, the "not my fault" attitude is common to lots of HGV drivers. Had one once who hit the only vehicle (transit van) parked in a half acre truck park-said it wasn't his fault as the van shouldn't have been there!

I must have managed hundreds of HGV drivers over the years, several managed to tip trucks over, one veered off a straight road into woodland, writing off a one week old lorry, hitting parked cars, trees, buildings and other inanimate objects was a regular occurrence, none of these incidents resulted in wage deductions or any action other than "retraining". Can't see the situation being any different now.

There's a video on U tube of an Agency driver's day with him complaining about dirty trailers, badly stacked pallets, having to handball stuff etc, saying "this is why there's a shortage of drivers" which is a fair point. But in the first two minutes of the vid, you see him approaching a roundabout taking both hands off the wheel to pick up and look at his paperwork!!

I saw that video. Pretty scary.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Am not saying you are wrong but takes bit of getting head around, and yes wages vary though the country but struggling here.

£1200/4 days=£300/day
£300/12=£25/hr
Unless you have all specific tickets exact experience on that specific machine really can not see it. Wonder how much it actually costs to employ that person including Nat insurance, paye and holidays etc.
Am very happy to be proven incorrect but seems hard to grasp.

Local guy is advertising for a walking floor driver, away Monday to Friday £22 per hour, plus night out money,
and overtime on Saturday if he has hours left and wants to do it

 

[kiwi pom]

Local guy is advertising for a walking floor driver, away Monday to Friday £22 per hour, plus night out money,
and overtime on Saturday if he has hours left and wants to do it

Got to be a hook somewhere at that money.
You not keen?

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Got to be a hook somewhere at that money.
You not keen?

Don't think there is a hook, not sure what he is hauling,
Nah, no away all week

 

[d williams]

Don't think there is a hook, not sure what he is hauling,
Nah, no away all week

Cousin here on the weekend they run some lorry’s one of the big lorry companies are offering £40/hour I think he said p and o they’ve decided that as and when their drivers finish they won’t be replaced lorry’s gone

 

[kiwi pom]

Don't think there is a hook, not sure what he is hauling,
Nah, no away all week

I suppose the nights out is the problem. Who the feck wants to sleep in a lay by 5 nights a week?

 

[Davy]

Ad on Facebook for hgv drivers over here in NI, £12hr. Mustnt be that short of drivers yet

 

[Boohoo]

Ad on Facebook for hgv drivers over here in NI, £12hr. Mustnt be that short of drivers yet

Plenty are still paying less than that but the driver shortage is only starting to have an impact.

 

[som farmer]

how would that work, with the eastern european tanker driver, that recently nearly missed his junction, off the main road, swerved to get it, overturned the lorry, whipped the taco out, and buggered off, back to his own country ? Leaving somebody else to sort it out.
In reality, foreign drivers are recruited because, there is a shortage of home grown drivers, prepared to work, at that rate of pay.
The whole system is broken, from zero hours contracts, to fat cat bonuses, it needs a heavy dose of realism, will it get it ? doubtful.

another bit of info, neighbours son has a spanish vet, as a partner, she just cannot understand the amounts of jobs available here, in the UK, compared to spain, it's hard to find anybody that even wants, a manual job there, which are rare anyway, 25% youth unemployment, over here, literally 1,000.s of jobs advertised, in spain, a fraction of that amount.

 

[ollie989898]

another bit of info, neighbours son has a spanish vet, as a partner, she just cannot understand the amounts of jobs available here, in the UK, compared to spain, it's hard to find anybody that even wants, a manual job there, which are rare anyway, 25% youth unemployment, over here, literally 1,000.s of jobs advertised, in spain, a fraction of that amount.

Spain is a vastly different country and in some respects, quite poor.

 

[ollie989898]

Spoke with lorry driver today actually, wagon drivers changing hats and working for other employers in droves. I still cannot believe that there are people out there driving trucks, with a tractor unit costing what, 150K and more, for the kind of sums quoted. I don't understand it all, I really do not. Have big companies been employing foreign nationals and using them to keep wages low? I would consider driving a truck a big responsibility and very very skilled work- it isn't something I could do and you can't even legally work more than a set number of hours per week, quite unlike tractor driving where people will routinely do 100+ hours a week.

 

[In the pit]

Nobody wants to work in this country
Every occupation seems to be short of workers

 

[ollie989898]

Nobody wants to work in this country
Every occupation seems to be short of workers

I don't know what the answer is but if you want good reliable staff I would suggest that pay and conditions may be a factor?

 

[In the pit]

But there not a massive pot of money to pay people
Then you talk about conditions changing
We looking for 2 farm workers at moment
Son works for contractor looking for 3 worker
Daughter in care sector , there looking for 15 people
How do you change working conditions
In Northern Ireland farmers are paying £20/hour and getting workers but saying it’s unsustainable

 

[som farmer]

I don't know what the answer is but if you want good reliable staff I would suggest that pay and conditions may be a factor?

l honestly think extra money would not tempt many new drivers, it's the work ethic that needs to be sorted first.
Totally agree with looking after good staff, they are seriously hard to get hold of the good ones. But the problem is numbers, and not enough are wanting to train up. And that is the problem, that needs to be overcome.
On the spanish bit, she is a min vet, and is totally disgusted by the work ethic over there, she can easily get any job over here.

 

[kiwi pom]

UK unemployment rate is 4.8% so its not that no one wants to work, most people obviously are. Most of the 4.7 probably aren't capable of work so if you're looking for someone where do you think they will come from?

All these big money jobs seem to disappear when you actually go looking.
My brother works on an arable/beef/spud farm in Cheshire, he can pretty much do anything from calving cows to sprayer operator, combine driver game keeper and estate maintenance. Been there years.
I think he said 11 quid an hour basic and no house, its only overtime that makes it work. Plenty of other jobs you say, but not really when he looks round and actually gets down to details. Realistically he would probably have to move for a job paying a bit more, then his wife would have to swap jobs too, kids change schools etc.

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Voicemail I had off me feed chap yesterday must be linked.

Said product was going to be slow going out due to a lack of drivers bringing raw material in.

 

[d williams]

UK unemployment rate is 4.8% so its not that no one wants to work, most people obviously are. Most of the 4.7 probably aren't capable of work so if you're looking for someone where do you think they will come from?

All these big money jobs seem to disappear when you actually go looking.
My brother works on an arable/beef/spud farm in Cheshire, he can pretty much do anything from calving cows to sprayer operator, combine driver game keeper and estate maintenance. Been there years.
I think he said 11 quid an hour basic and no house, its only overtime that makes it work. Plenty of other jobs you say, but not really when he looks round and actually gets down to details. Realistically he would probably have to move for a job paying a bit more, then his wife would have to swap jobs too, kids change schools etc.

The unemployment rate is the figure the government want you to believe
It’s not that to many in education and on sick benefits that should be working but to f**king lazy

 

[som farmer]

there is a certain % that are completely unemployable, what you can do about them, no idea, nor has anyone else. How they live, no idea either, benefits are not that easy to get, I am registered as disabled, even going through CAB, very limited amount l can claim, and they were saying, it is incredibly hard to get anything, over the basic dole, which l find hard to believe, but that is what they say.