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[Nearly]

'I brush my grainstore floor every day'

 

[curlietailz]

Good News for wheat farmers
But the perfect storm ?

ELMS, agroforestry, regen ag, rewild etc will undoubtedly take some prime arable land out of cereal production

Add in the projected 77 million population by 2050. ( seennthat stat but can’t recall where)

And the import / export Brexit confusion

And the huge quantities of wheat needed to make E10 biofuel

Where is the FOOD coming from ??

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

I check mine for birds, bugs and rodents.
Never have a problem despite the doors being opened daily

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

They'll still want a sticker, every buyer likes a sticker, just like i used to get one when visiting the dentist as a kid

If assurance goes out of the window, I might start a sideline in selling stickers...

 

[teslacoils]

They'll still want a sticker, every buyer likes a sticker, just like i used to get one when visiting the dentist as a kid

Yes, so they can put a sticker on the cattle feed that comes out.....to replace soya....that doesn't have a sticker.

 

[e3120]

Yes, so they can put a sticker on the cattle feed that comes out.....to replace soya....that doesn't have a sticker.

Well, it's definitely not that that mandates it. The ensus ddgs that I received yesterday was produced using mainly imported maize and still has femas accreditation sufficient to satisfy my qa Hitler.

I must declare an interest: not only would I like to see more plentiful ensus/vivergo dark grains, with the consequences on all protein prices, but I would rather send my non-assured wheat down the road, rather than to a Scottish HC home that doesn't collect stickers.

 

[Brisel]

When the bioethanol plants were running flat out on wheat, it was worth an extra £10+ on our ex farm prices in the north east. I won't mind the hypocrisy of that system again! Sadly, the discount of maize to wheat means I can't see Ensus increasing their wheat usage any time soon.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Vivergo was wheat only. I don't know how hard it us to switch but Ensus certainly did, though they may have engineered it into the initial design of the plant.

 

[Sid]

Good News for wheat farmers
But the perfect storm ?

ELMS, agroforestry, regen ag, rewild etc will undoubtedly take some prime arable land out of cereal production

Add in the projected 77 million population by 2050. ( seennthat stat but can’t recall where)

And the import / export Brexit confusion

And the huge quantities of wheat needed to make E10 biofuel

Where is the FOOD coming from ??

Seen an article where they are growing it underground using hydroponics and lights. As Crocodile Dundee once said "taste's like sh1t but you can live on it!"

 

[farmerm]

Good News for wheat farmers
But the perfect storm ?

ELMS, agroforestry, regen ag, rewild etc will undoubtedly take some prime arable land out of cereal production

Add in the projected 77 million population by 2050. ( seennthat stat but can’t recall where)

And the import / export Brexit confusion

And the huge quantities of wheat needed to make E10 biofuel

Where is the FOOD coming from ??

from the mouths of those least able to afford it I suspect....

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Vivergo was wheat only. I don't know how hard it us to switch but Ensus certainly did, though they may have engineered it into the initial design of the plant.

Can't be perfectly straightforward, otherwise Viv would have been converted to maize from Immingham years ago instead of closing.

I think both were converted refinery type sites originally (ICI Wilton?)

 

[Brisel]

Can't be perfectly straightforward, otherwise Viv would have been converted to maize from Immingham years ago instead of closing.

I think both were converted refinery type sites originally (ICI Wilton?)

I've no idea. When both got going I was at the other end of the country where their impact in markets was minimal.

 

[Cowabunga]

Good News for wheat farmers
But the perfect storm ?

ELMS, agroforestry, regen ag, rewild etc will undoubtedly take some prime arable land out of cereal production

Add in the projected 77 million population by 2050. ( seennthat stat but can’t recall where)

And the import / export Brexit confusion

And the huge quantities of wheat needed to make E10 biofuel

Where is the FOOD coming from ??

Hate to rain on your parade but European population is projected to continue to fall by 2050 because the birth rate is below a stable replacement rate of 2.1 children per pair of adults. Indeed the world's population is not projected to grow much and what growth there is, is of old age pensioners. The only reason that it will not fall is that Africa is projected to grow substantially while most other areas decline. China, for instance, is desperate for their young people to breed, not only because they have a massive shortage of females due to past policy, but because youngsters are starting to breed later and just do not want more than one or two children. India is another country that has a steeply declining birthrate as the country prospers and children are better educated and family planning becomes more universal.

There is no shortage of land for food production globally. Indeed there are vast areas that are cheap yet under-utilised. All the while there is great pressure to develop animal product replacements from fungi and plankton and novel science that will be cheaper to produce than traditional farmed food from the land.

 

[turbo]

Excellent news and well done to everyone who lobbied for it

 

[teslacoils]

Vivergo at full steam, and a new 1mt ABN feed mill would be a big change.

 

[JonL]

When the bioethanol plants were running flat out on wheat, it was worth an extra £10+ on our ex farm prices in the north east. I won't mind the hypocrisy of that system again! Sadly, the discount of maize to wheat means I can't see Ensus increasing their wheat usage any time soon.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Vivergo was wheat only. I don't know how hard it us to switch but Ensus certainly did, though they may have engineered it into the initial design of the plant.

Word is Vivergo have installed a hammer mill to allow maize to be used (vs original roller mill). Rumour not fact

 

[JP1]

Hate to rain on your parade but European population is projected to continue to fall by 2050 because the birth rate is below a stable replacement rate of 2.1 children per pair of adults. Indeed the world's population is not projected to grow much and what growth there is, is of old age pensioners. The only reason that it will not fall is that Africa is projected to grow substantially while most other areas decline. China, for instance, is desperate for their young people to breed, not only because they have a massive shortage of females due to past policy, but because youngsters are starting to breed later and just do not want more than one or two children. India is another country that has a steeply declining birthrate as the country prospers and children are better educated and family planning becomes more universal.

There is no shortage of land for food production globally. Indeed there are vast areas that are cheap yet under-utilised. All the while there is great pressure to develop animal product replacements from fungi and plankton and novel science that will be cheaper to produce than traditional farmed food from the land.

Any tips for the best place to find under utilised grassland with a stable political situation and where they're encouraging human breeding ?

 

[Cowabunga]

Any tips for the best place to find sunder utilised grassland with a stable political situation and where they're encouraging human breeding ?

The USA. Not sure how stable it is and they do arm lunatics. Otherwise Russia is very stable and safer.

 

[uztrac]

Russia is on my list,low birthrate.ample lands available,stable and safe if you keep to the laws of the land.Cheap alcohol & fuel and lovely welcoming people. In "normal" times our family visits Russia 3 or 4 times a year,so yes,we do know what we are talking about.

 

[kfpben]

Any tips for the best place to find under utilised grassland with a stable political situation and where they're encouraging human breeding ?

The South of England?

 

[JP1]

The South of England?

I'm close then !