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kill

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South West
I believe, as with most other people on here, that badgers are to blame for tb, on our 200 acre farm we have 18 setts, and as in a cull zone, we have lost a lot of badgers, however, most of those setts are now reoccupied, where the hell did they come from? does this mean we are more likely to go down with tb, as these 'new' badgers are infected? up to now we have been clean.
however, what could we all do, if heaven forbid, the badgers are proved not to be the cause ? personally I think the best way forward is to test the latrines, and take out the infected ones, thereby leaving a clean population.
Alot of silly ex-town dwellers around here have bought farms and are doing feck all with the ground and the ground is looking dreadful but swarming with various pests and weeds besides a few free range sheep that are never seen or cared for by worming , docking or shearing and often in breeding and with serious numbers of dead ones lieing about but these often are professional people including a doctor.
 

multi power

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Location
pembrokeshire
Even with an NVL, no culture reactor, restrictions will not be lifted until a C & D form (TB5?) has been filed.
You sprayed FAM 30 at the recommended dilution rate around the isolation pen didn’t you? Of course you did.

It’s all paperwork.
Yes I understand all that, my point was merely that there is a good chance of a clear test next time
 
Wife mentioned that there was a mention of TB appearing in cats and dogs recently in the vet world-cattle in the pet food chain? Public support for ye olde humbug would collapse pretty quick if that got out.

Not necessarily cattle. Venison was mentioned recently. Faddy 'raw meat' diets, containing ???
We covered this last October and the Times picked it up a couple of weeks ago. Quite a number of cats affected, plus a few owners.

https://bovinetb.blogspot.com/2018/10/raw-meat-feeding-pets.html

https://ourpetshealth.com/info/raw-food-diets-and-tb-in-cats
 

Werzle

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Location
Midlands
Does anybody apart from me think live badgers are being released on there farms, im bloody convinced its happening. I have always known that town foxes have been dropped off around me and i even had a women call in with a mouse she didnt want to harm but releasing tb spreading badgers is going to get somebody hurt, believe me these badgers are not living happy ever after either. Have any pro badger groups been caught or suspected of it?
 

PostHarvest

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Location
Warwick
Someone I know has a small stock farm that is very close to the M40. They have taken every anti-badger precaution they can think of and have been clear of bTB for years. Late last year they had a major breakdown. I strongly suspect that someone has imported one or more infected badgers and released them on the side of the motorway. I know that it was a regular activity of our local - now defunct - hunt to "redistribute" foxes.
 
Does anybody apart from me think live badgers are being released on there farms, im bloody convinced its happening. I have always known that town foxes have been dropped off around me and i even had a women call in with a mouse she didnt want to harm but releasing tb spreading badgers is going to get somebody hurt, believe me these badgers are not living happy ever after either. Have any pro badger groups been caught or suspected of it?

We’ve covered this several times:

we Call these badgers TB takeaways.

https://bovinetb.blogspot.com/2012/03/tb-takeaways.html

One such was a badger from Essex, tattooed and rescued in Somerset and released in S. Wales.

https://bovinetb.blogspot.com/2016/04/towie.html

So the answer to your question is, Yes.
While our cattle are nailed to floor, if not shot, these blasted sanctuaries are releasing badgers to anyone with an orchard who requests one. Or two.
 

multi power

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Location
pembrokeshire
Does anybody apart from me think live badgers are being released on there farms, im bloody convinced its happening. I have always known that town foxes have been dropped off around me and i even had a women call in with a mouse she didnt want to harm but releasing tb spreading badgers is going to get somebody hurt, believe me these badgers are not living happy ever after either. Have any pro badger groups been caught or suspected of it?
Of course they are, at various levels, some probably assume they are helping, others will be well aware of the concequnces
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
we farm alongside a main road, minor road off main, turn right, under a bridge, then let the 'rescued, saved, removed' foxes out, allegedly from Bristol, you could tell they were 'tame', they would stay still to be shot. heaven help us if they start the same with badgers, we have just had the first IR in 11 years
 

RushesToo

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Location
Fingringhoe
For these berluddy so-called ‘sanctuaries’ they are a neither. Baby badgers are a lucrative source of income. End of. :banghead:
I don not understand how the H&S indspections allow people to handle animals where there TB status is unknown AND they are more likely to be infected with TB than almost anything else you are liekly to encounter in the countryside.

Who is checking the H&S risk assessments?
I would love to ask their insurance companies to validate the prevention of harm to employees.....
 
I don not understand how the H&S indspections allow people to handle animals where there TB status is unknown AND they are more likely to be infected with TB than almost anything else you are liekly to encounter in the countryside.

Who is checking the H&S risk assessments?
I would love to ask their insurance companies to validate the prevention of harm to employees.....

Do 'volunteers' come under any legislation at all? I don't know.

Only ask, because a 'badger fosterer' linked to Secret World, was in the media a few years ago, cuddling a baby stripey - in the living room of a semi in Zummerset.
This woman had a nasty abscess on her face / neck, which wouldn't heal. :whistle:

The mantra is 'bovine' Tuberculosis affects .... cattle. The clue is in the name of course. Which is why we have adopted the more generalised and accurate term 'zoonotic Tuberculosis'
Such is the level of ignorance, that I was asked only last week by quite a sensible person, if MALE alpacas could catch it. :banghead:
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
Herd test today. Another IR to retest in 60 days. (Yes, I know, but our paperwork said STANDARD INTERPRETATION and the vet queried it 3 ways :whistle:). Apart from 2 postal delivers of paperwork I've had NO APHA contact except that I've initiated so far, 11 weeks after our first IR and 4 weeks after our repeat one. We have not been allocated a case officer yet either.
 
Herd test today. Another IR to retest in 60 days. (Yes, I know, but our paperwork said STANDARD INTERPRETATION and the vet queried it 3 ways :whistle:). Apart from 2 postal delivers of paperwork I've had NO APHA contact except that I've initiated so far, 11 weeks after our first IR and 4 weeks after our repeat one. We have not been allocated a case officer yet either.

A what? Case officer? :ROFLMAO:

Don’t think they exist any more. A lot of staff work for APHA but out of different offices. All do ‘their job’ as in organising reactor removal, even if you weren’t aware you had any reactors. Another office issues licences - or not. A different office sends reams of paper out for testing, and that doesn’t coincide with any gamma tests or results, also causing problems and stress.

Very rare does a single person oversee the whole picture for your herd and circumstances.

These very important staff don’t talk to each other and rarely, to you. It’s a chaotic berluddy shambles.

Oh, and you are likely to get a Disease Report visit, where you may be offered bio security advice. Which involves keeping infected badgers away from your cattle. If you fail, then into Deathrow’s mincing machine they go, and it’s your failure.

Cynical? You bet.
Angry? Definitely. Very, very angry.
 
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