TB fraud

[yellowbelly]

Tried registering complaint but page freezes after selecting time

Didn't fill the 'time' bit on on mine - it said it wasn't compulsory.

 

[Kevtherev]

BBC fake news all over again but they cover up jimmy Saville until he’s dead.
Waaaaankers

 

[Henarar]

I've lodged a complaint . The more that do the better.
@Kevtherev @Henarar

I didn't see the program

 

[livestock 1]

I didn't see the program

It seems hard to believe that any farmer would encourage a Tb reactor knowing the subsequent carry on and cost to the farm movement restrictions etc. Also anyone I have spoken to tells me that compo is nearer two thirds of actual value. It’s a pity this point was not put over

 

[topground]

My complaint to the BBC delivered through the lnk provided earlier in this thread.



The headline impression delivered by this piece was that Tb fraud is rife and that farmers are faking Tb reactors to take advantage of compensation up to £5K per beast. The method implied is that farmers are injecting, amongst other things slurry to fake a reaction It then goes on to say that there has been ONE successful prosecution in 3 years and then no detail of what offences were committed,so no direct evidence that what is alleged has occurred. So having created the impression that there is widescale fraud there is nothing in the report to confirm that this is the case. The report also created the impression that Tb compensation arrangements were £5000 per animal which is nonsense since the valuations for cattle are in tabular form and available on the DEFRA website. Easily accessible to any one apart it would appear from lazy journalists or those with a political agenda .A further example of the BBC slandering the minority group that are Farmers. It is clear that the producers have an anti farmer agenda and are using Countryfile as a platform for their discrimination against this minority rural group



I will post any response I receive but dont hold your breath waiting for any expression of remorse from the BBC.

 

[livestock 1]

My complaint to the BBC delivered through the lnk provided earlier in this thread.



The headline impression delivered by this piece was that Tb fraud is rife and that farmers are faking Tb reactors to take advantage of compensation up to £5K per beast. The method implied is that farmers are injecting, amongst other things slurry to fake a reaction It then goes on to say that there has been ONE successful prosecution in 3 years and then no detail of what offences were committed,so no direct evidence that what is alleged has occurred. So having created the impression that there is widescale fraud there is nothing in the report to confirm that this is the case. The report also created the impression that Tb compensation arrangements were £5000 per animal which is nonsense since the valuations for cattle are in tabular form and available on the DEFRA website. Easily accessible to any one apart it would appear from lazy journalists or those with a political agenda .A further example of the BBC slandering the minority group that are Farmers. It is clear that the producers have an anti farmer agenda and are using Countryfile as a platform for their discrimination against this minority rural group

I will post any reply I receive.

Spot on

 

[yellowbelly]

I didn't see the program

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0btxw59/countryfile-county-durham

The TB bit starts at 15.17.

 

[Kevtherev]

The slurry injections were in Northern Ireland I was told.
Not sure though.
BBC again putting another nail in the Farming public image.

 

[Kevtherev]

 

[yellowbelly]

My complaint to the BBC delivered through the lnk provided earlier in this thread.

This was my sixpenneth...

....I think we'll get replies - whether they'll be worth reading though, I wouldn't be too sure.

 

[egbert]

wheres the 5k figure come from? My pedigree Holsteins that have gone in the last few weeks only just got over £1300 a piece,try replacing them for that (when I’m actually allowed to buy in by the powers that be at tb headquarters) lost a-load of incalf heifers as week and compo ranged from £650-£806

can't press like...thats pretty grim

 

[Cowabunga]

https://www.farminguk.com/News/Farm...-in-NI-to-be-convicted-of-TB-fraud_50399.html

A local vet did his own TB tests, had huge numbers of unregistered cattle. Had no movement records and inaccurate ones and so on. All he got, a qualified working 'professional', was a slap on the wrist and he's still working [though not in the same practice] and still has cattle as far as I know. His cattle were well known for being undernourished and up to their bellies in mud all winter with muddy run-off to roads and drains a distance away.

It flipping amazed me that all he really got was six month's suspension from being a vet and a tiny fine of £1000. https://www.vettimes.co.uk/news/vet-suspended-for-six-months-by-rcvs-disciplinary-committee/

Is it a case of "who you know"?

 

[Werzle]

It seems hard to believe that any farmer would encourage a Tb reactor knowing the subsequent carry on and cost to the farm movement restrictions etc. Also anyone I have spoken to tells me that compo is nearer two thirds of actual value. It’s a pity this point was not put over

If your on valuation like wales is and you are only losing one or two animals every test you start to see how perhaps some farmers see it as a way out of the crippling debt that tb can cause. Its wrong yes but the stress and worry could drive them to it. In england it would be a quick way to go bust because the tabled average compensation we are on is only 50-75% the true value of our cattle.

 

[onthehoof]

Always thought Adam stuck up for farmers and helped get public on our side, he should be spitting feathers with what he’s been through with Tb.

 

[matthew]

Always thought Adam stuck up for farmers and helped get public on our side, he should be spitting feathers with what he’s been through with Tb.

Adam will say what he's paid to say. The BBC is his pension.
On the whole he's a good ambassador for farming, but on controversial matters, particularly TB, which he has experienced first hand, he knows which side his bread is buttered.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Adam will say what he's paid to say. The BBC is his pension.
On the whole he's a good ambassador for farming, but on controversial matters, particularly TB, which he has experienced first hand, he knows which side his bread is buttered.

Assuming that’s correct, then that tells you all you need to know about him, and as such I could never class someone who’s prepared to put financial gain ahead of principles as a good ambassador for the industry

 

[Water Wheel]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0btxw59/countryfile-county-durham

The TB bit starts at 15.17.

About 1 minute in Tom says fraud is rare.

 

[DRC]

About 1 minute in Tom says fraud is rare.

Basically then it was a non story , but now in the minds of the public. sh!t stirring of the highest order.

 

[Henarar]

Adam will say what he's paid to say. The BBC is his pension.
On the whole he's a good ambassador for farming, but on controversial matters, particularly TB, which he has experienced first hand, he knows which side his bread is buttered.

he can't say what he wants it would just be cut out, its not like it goes out live is it,
very odd they didn't give him this report not, they gave it to tom

 

[Stewart Setter]

I think with any reporting today (and social media) everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt. That being said, the agri industry has a hard enough time as it is without needless negative and misleading journalism. I'm new to the industry and am researching all material where I can and so far this is the first I've heard/read of rife TB fraud.. I assumed that where there were claims on livestock there was to be an assessor on hand to validate the claim.. again I'm new so could be way off track with this thinking.