TB Test

[welger rp 220]

I have my annual tb test next tuesday then the reading the following friday but i need to fluke and worm my cows and youngstock..Ive never gone down with tb but have had a couple of inconclusives the year before last in previous tests..Is it safe to dose them so close to the test? Will it affect it in anyway?

 

[JSmith]

I have my annual tb test next tuesday then the reading the following friday but i need to fluke and worm my cows and youngstock..Ive never gone down with tb but have had a couple of inconclusives the year before last in previous tests..Is it safe to dose them so close to the test? Will it affect it in anyway?

Worm them on the day you read the test not before, then if you have a reactor it won’t be on withdrawal! Reading mine tomorrow not looking forward to it?

 

[Pauly]

I should leave them until the Friday as or after you read them just in case there is a reactor. It wouldn't be able to enter the food chain and have to be shot on farm,making a bad situation worse

 

[welger rp 220]

Does that mean i wont be compensated if i had a straight reactor due to the animal being under withdrawal?

 

[Pauly]

I don't think it effects the compensation but I wouldn't risk it. Have just gone down last week after 6 clear years so not really caught up on all the regs yet.

 

[davidroberts30]

Does that mean i wont be compensated if i had a straight reactor due to the animal being under withdrawal?

You will be compensated but the beast will be shot on farm and carted off in the knackers

 

[matthew]

You will be compensated but the beast will be shot on farm and carted off in the knackers

Denying Deathrow their salvage money.

 

[topground]

If a reactor is within withdrawal period following treatment it is not able to go into the food chain and will be shot on the farm and collected by the knackerman. You will be paid the same as if it went into the food chain, the animal does not suffer the stress of being carted halfway across the country to whichever slaughterhouse gives APHA the best deal and the knackerman doesn't care how much muck is stuck to the hide so wont deduct 50% of its value from your compensation.

 

[Pauly]

In reply to the original question worming them shouldn't have any effect on the result of the test. @topground do you only get 50% compensation if you admit the cattle are too dirty for the abattoir and have to go to the knackers or is it only when they get to the abattoir and are then found to be too dirty to process

 

[topground]

In reply to the original question worming them shouldn't have any effect on the result of the test. @topground do you only get 50% compensation if you admit the cattle are too dirty for the abattoir and have to go to the knackers or is it only when they get to the abattoir and are then found to be too dirty to process

You are in tbe hands of the vet at the abattoir. If I had a reactor that went live I would take photographs of the animal in tbe event of a debate subsequently. I dont trust the system. If the vet decides it is dirty and you lose 50% of your compensation do you think the APHA only get 50% of tbe salvage value and give the rest to the processor?

 

[topground]

In reply to the original question worming them shouldn't have any effect on the result of the test. @topground do you only get 50% compensation if you admit the cattle are too dirty for the abattoir and have to go to the knackers or is it only when they get to the abattoir and are then found to be too dirty to process

Re read the question after a night watching Andrew Neill destroying politicians. You receive100% if it is shot on the farm. There is no discussion about how dirty it is. Tbe only issue is could it enter the food chain or is it fit to travel. If it is under withdrawal restrictions it cannot enter the food chain. You treat the animal because it needs treating. You do not have to take into account the financial hit that APHA might take if it is shot on farm as a reactor.

 

[Pauly]

Thanks. I was planning on taking photos anyway because I wouldn't trust anyone that end either

 

[Highland Mule]

Re read the question after a night watching Andrew Neill destroying politicians. You receive100% if it is shot on the farm. There is no discussion about how dirty it is. Tbe only issue is could it enter the food chain or is it fit to travel. If it is under withdrawal restrictions it cannot enter the food chain. You treat the animal because it needs treating. You do not have to take into account the financial hit that APHA might take if it is shot on farm as a reactor.

Sounds like there's an incentive for all farmers to worm the cattle between test and reading then. Why wouldn't you, if it removed the risk of a penalty for dirty hide?

 

[Werzle]

Sounds like there's an incentive for all farmers to worm the cattle between test and reading then. Why wouldn't you, if it removed the risk of a penalty for dirty hide?

Majority wouldnt be dirty and why would anybody 1)want to handle the cattle inbetween testing when twice in one week is bad enough and 2) risk giving them anything that might affect the test.

 

[Highland Mule]

Majority wouldnt be dirty and why would anybody 1)want to handle the cattle inbetween testing when twice in one week is bad enough and 2) risk giving them anything that might affect the test.

Fair enough - I wasn't sure how strict the dirty threshold was. Due to the Scottish rules, I don't have to do TB tests on my holding and haven't helped at a test in well over two decades (and not volunteering to help now either).

 

[Sid]

Majority wouldnt be dirty and why would anybody 1)want to handle the cattle inbetween testing when twice in one week is bad enough and 2) risk giving them anything that might affect the test.

Why would you want to handle them or risk anything that may effect the test. If the medicine books says they have been treated then that's what's happened isn't it, as it's the word of RT.

 

[Werzle]

Why would you want to handle them or risk anything that may effect the test. If the medicine books says they have been treated then that's what's happened isn't it, as it's the word of RT.

? Not sure what your trying to say.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I had a couple inconclusives last year. When they went clear the tester asked if they had been treated with anything before the first test as in their experience, something that causes the animals system to fight a parasite or infection, could cause the skin test to react.

 

[Sid]

? Not sure what your trying to say.

Doesn't matter if you treat an animal or not, if it says it was treated in the medicine it was treated.

 

[Werzle]

Doesn't matter if you treat an animal or not, if it says it was treated in the medicine it was treated.

They do take samples sometimes to check, they took some from mine that were clear to be culled. I would rather load them on a lorry than have them shot on farm and rendered but whatever floats your boat.