TB

[Scholsey]

What grid valuation? News to me. There is a cap on the valuation of 5k,not that I 've ever gone past 2k.Try not to get valuer from GTH!

Maybe that’s what he meant that, said something had changed with welsh valuation, loading a organic fresh calved pedigree holstein 5th calver doing 60litres a day on Thursday and getting £800 for her as she is over 84 months.

 

[vantage]

Maybe that’s what he meant that, said something had changed with welsh valuation, loading a organic fresh calved pedigree holstein 5th calver doing 60litres a day on Thursday and getting £800 for her as she is over 84 months.

Agreed,grossly unfair. As is WAGs new policy of 50% compensation for bought in animals!

 

[Werzle]

Reactor Cows on welsh farms now have to be pd i hear before being removed . Suckler valuation in england back down below £800 for this month!

 

[vantage]

Reactor Cows on welsh farms now have to be pd i hear before being removed . Suckler valuation in england back down below £800 for this month!

Only if you say they're in calf.

 

[Princess Pooper]

Not saying bTB in cattle behaves the same but........http://www.who.int/tb/features_archive/LTBI/en/

." It is estimated that about one-third of the world's population has latent TB, which means people have been infected by TB bacteria but do not show symptoms of TB and cannot transmit the disease. People infected with TB bacteria have a lifetime risk of 5-10% falling ill with TB."

but they would test positive for TB on a blood test (I think they have been doing a lot of this in Leicester to try and reduce new cases in humans).

 

[Cropper]

Make no mistake, there are badgers being "saved" by antis and relocated north. I'm sure as we slowly clear up the south, areas up north will learn what ball ache we've been going through.

Badgers are appearing in Argyl on the West Coast of Scotland, this interference is totally irresponsible and highly illegal but I dare say condoned by many who can’t bear to lose an argument.

 

[In the pit]

Check this out on Agriland - TB: Compulsory insurance and an end to compensation on the cards
https://www.agriland.co.uk/farming-...ance-and-an-end-to-compensation-on-the-cards/

 

[Private Pike]

I find it quite amazing that the intradermal skin test, used as a herd test, and especially on severe interpretation, is the primary test used Universally to screen cattle for TB and yet continuously doubts are thrown at its use in the UK ? It surely cannot be that the environment our cattle are forced to share with one of the biggest excreters of m.bovis on the planet has any effect, can it?

No, it's genuinely a flawed test- in the guise used in the UK, different to most of the rest of the world, it is particularly hopeless. It's quite handy at picking out which farms have TB, if you've got a few cows with the disease it will hopefully find a proportion of them, but is limited when it comes to finding all of the ones with it.

Having said that, the guise we use in the UK compared to the rest of the world tends to take away far fewer false positives, if it says a reactor is a reactor then something like 99.97-99.99% chance she is... but if it says she's clear then we're much less certain of that. Of course, if we got rid of the avian injection at the top and just went off the bovine, they'd find more cows with TB, but they'd also take more that don't have it.

Not that the little furry things are helping matters, but how do we ever hope to get rid of it when we can't identify it in our cows properly?

 

[matthew]

Check this out on Agriland - TB: Compulsory insurance and an end to compensation on the cards
https://www.agriland.co.uk/farming-...ance-and-an-end-to-compensation-on-the-cards/

The last time Gov.uk proposed this, I phoned the loss adjusters and when they’d finished laughing, they said the answer was NO.
“Exposure to risk is too high. “.
TB payouts for those of us who had insurance, were haemorrhaging their budget.

(They didn’t mean cattle were the risk)

 

[Henarar]

nice to be forced to insure against something we are not allowed to do anything about

 

[matthew]

nice to be forced to insure against something we are not allowed to do anything about

This was the answer to PQ in 2003.

https://bovinetb.blogspot.com/search?q=Insurance+for+tb

Hands up who thinks the situation may have improved.

 

[Fallowfield]

Badgers are appearing in Argyl on the West Coast of Scotland, this interference is totally irresponsible and highly illegal but I dare say condoned by many who can’t bear to lose an argument.

You mean there haven't been badgers there before?

 

[vantage]

You mean there haven't been badgers there before?

The same as moles in Ireland?!

 

[ollie989898]

No insurer with any sense is going to insure a farmer against TB when the exact risk cannot be established or calculated. Anyone suggesting insurance is the answer doesn't have a scoobies about the epidemiology involved.

 

[Bald Rick]

“Greedy farmers selling livestock which they fear is already infected with tuberculosis are helping to spread the disease, according to a team of scientific experts”
So begins an article in today’s Times drawing on a new report by Prof Sir Charles Godfray
Culling badgers has a “modest but real” effect

Going to be interesting to see and hear how the BBC are going to spin this on the 6 o’clock news

 

[Water Wheel]

Review of government’s bovine TB strategy published
A review of the government’s 25 Year Bovine TB Strategy has been published.

Published 13 November 2018

https://assets.publishing.service.g...nt_data/file/755515/bovine-tb-review-2018.pdf

 

[Henarar]

“Greedy farmers selling livestock which they fear is already infected with tuberculosis are helping to spread the disease, according to a team of scientific experts”
So begins an article in today’s Times drawing on a new report by Prof Sir Charles Godfray
Culling badgers has a “modest but real” effect

Going to be interesting to see and hear how the BBC are going to spin this on the 6 o’clock news

just caught the end of it on ITV
never seen such a load of bloody fecking lies in all my life
fecking useless NFU should be all over this and even their supporters on here can't fecking deny that

 

[matthew]

Review of government’s bovine TB strategy published
A review of the government’s 25 Year Bovine TB Strategy has been published.

Published 13 November 2018

https://assets.publishing.service.g...nt_data/file/755515/bovine-tb-review-2018.pdf

We've done our best, together with some actual facts and Lazy's story.

https://bovinetb.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-magic-roundabout.html

This load of guff even gives 'Fake News' a bad name.

 

[Princess Pooper]

No insurer with any sense is going to insure a farmer against TB when the exact risk cannot be established or calculated. Anyone suggesting insurance is the answer doesn't have a scoobies about the epidemiology involved.

I hosted a visit from Defra about TB a year ago and one of the economists in the group asked why we didn't insure against it and I told them it was uninsurable - especially as we had suffered a wildlife-attributed breakdown.

 

[ollie989898]

I hosted a visit from Defra about TB a year ago and one of the economists in the group asked why we didn't insure against it and I told them it was uninsurable - especially as we had suffered a wildlife-attributed breakdown.

God, I would have paid good money to have been there.

Insure against it- that won't ever happen, I can't see how anyone could quantify the level of risk.