Te pari hd3 vs Clipex contractor sheep handler

roseshep

Member
The clippex has a very clever way of holding the next sheep in place using the side wall, also the clippex ejects the lamb in the clamp by forcing it out with a flap as opposed to a jet of air on the te pari which looks to me to be more effective, just a shame about shearwell compatibility
So if you weren't running shearwell you would have gone with Clipex?
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
If its ought like our te pari it takes a wee while to get set up to how you like it, hopefully the clippex guy will be clued up. Bought ours second hand so no expert to help with set up, I remember the first job was putting pour on on lambs and the bloody thing was crap, too many going straight through, after a long while we cottoned on the pour on was coating the magic eyes so they wouldn’t work, a few wet wipes sorted the problem but for a while I thought aI had bought a lemon. Another job I think the clippex would have been better with the magic eyes up a height out the way. Now though I couldnt manage without it and mortally hate dosing in a race now.
 

roseshep

Member
If its ought like our te pari it takes a wee while to get set up to how you like it, hopefully the clippex guy will be clued up. Bought ours second hand so no expert to help with set up, I remember the first job was putting pour on on lambs and the bloody thing was crap, too many going straight through, after a long while we cottoned on the pour on was coating the magic eyes so they wouldn’t work, a few wet wipes sorted the problem but for a while I thought aI had bought a lemon. Another job I think the clippex would have been better with the magic eyes up a height out the way. Now though I couldnt manage without it and mortally hate dosing in a race now.
I'm starting to get the odd shoulder injury and don't want to have to turn over every ewe to crutch it! I'm doing all the drenching in the prattley to which is tedious and slow so i'm thinking the Clipex will be quicker and possibly more accurate dosing rates......
My last job we had a Te pari Racewell which was great for just weighing and was such a sturdy piece of kit that I've wanted to stay with Te Pari. But money always comes into it one way or another.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
They a great piece of kit, we have no one employed nowadays and this machine will enable me to farm sheep right up to retirement . So worth every penny if you ask me.

Do you use it on your own, or with someone pushing up? I notice in the videos on the website there seems to be somebody behind in all of them. :scratchhead:
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
How many sheep are people running to justify spending over £20k on one?

I’m looking at a quote for a good bit under £20k for one, as I already have a Trutest head unit and a Psion.
I’m tentatively considering one for 750 ewes, with a view to recording performance better on the crossbred flock. It will depend on getting accepted for a Farming Connect project that would pay nearly half towards it, along with selling the CombiClamp to pay for the bottom foot of the lead up ramp.

Mrs NeilO sees me after a day of working sheep, even with the CombiClamp, and says I should just get one anyway. Knees and hips have aged a bit in recent years.:(
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Do you use it on your own, or with someone pushing up? I notice in the videos on the website there seems to be somebody behind in all of them. :scratchhead:
Yes exactly is it one man job to save labour?

Could build a decent shed for 22.5k and it would still be around for use long after the handler.


I've been using it alone the past week and love it. It's through my mobile pens with no solid hurdles so sheep flow can be an issue. But if you had well planned permanent pens they'd run well with some good dogs.

Young Celt still learning but he can sort most stoppages.

1 labour unit and dogs can weigh and draft 400+/hr. Clostridial jabs a few days ago were 300+/hr
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
Do you use it on your own, or with someone pushing up? I notice in the videos on the website there seems to be somebody behind in all of them. :scratchhead:
You can use it easily on your own with a good run up race and dog but it is still faster with someone else….even one of the kids as they flow better especially lambs if they are going through once a week . If you are just weighing and drafting no one else is needed as you are in the forcing pen maybe doing an odd lame/blind one and just leave the machine to do the job
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
I’m looking at a quote for a good bit under £20k for one, as I already have a Trutest head unit and a Psion.
I’m tentatively considering one for 750 ewes, with a view to recording performance better on the crossbred flock. It will depend on getting accepted for a Farming Connect project that would pay nearly half towards it, along with selling the CombiClamp to pay for the bottom foot of the lead up ramp.

Mrs NeilO sees me after a day of working sheep, even with the CombiClamp, and says I should just get one anyway. Knees and hips have aged a bit in recent years.:(
I have a knackered hip as well, probably bought it 20 years to late. We just have very similar ewe numbers to you nowadays after giving up a rented farm a few years back when we had a lot more ewes so made justifying it easier back then. Saying that compared to the cost of a mower/rake/muckspreader etc it is not silly money as it will go all year round and not just for a few days a year. I still think it can be justified on 500 ewes with a lifespan of 20 years which they seem to expect down under.
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria


I've been using it alone the past week and love it. It's through my mobile pens with no solid hurdles so sheep flow can be an issue. But if you had well planned permanent pens they'd run well with some good dogs.

Young Celt still learning but he can sort most stoppages.

1 labour unit and dogs can weigh and draft 400+/hr. Clostridial jabs a few days ago were 300+/hr
I would have thought justifying it as a contract shepherd would be simple purely on output alone and bearing in mind there has to be a shortage of shepherds in the future when you see the lack of new blood in this industry, it does make routine jobs easy and I actually look forward to working with sheep nowadays, whereas I am starting to hate handling cattle as I get older despite having a good cattle set up aswell
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
I would have thought justifying it as a contract shepherd would be simple purely on output alone and bearing in mind there has to be a shortage of shepherds in the future when you see the lack of new blood in this industry, it does make routine jobs easy and I actually look forward to working with sheep nowadays, whereas I am starting to hate handling cattle as I get older despite having a good cattle set up aswell
I agree but, look at some threads here and on Facebook where people talk about what they expect to pay contractors. £8-15/hr.

Such expensive kit wouldn't stack up at those rates.

I've posted my charges before and been flamed for it. Not that it bothers me 🤣
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
I agree but, look at some threads here and on Facebook where people talk about what they expect to pay contractors. £8-15/hr.

Such expensive kit wouldn't stack up at those rates.

I've posted my charges before and been flamed for it. Not that it bothers me 🤣
No I would agree with that but the headage rate option would be the way to go with this machine
 

exmoor dave

Member
Location
exmoor, uk
To be honest, I hardly use mine for any lamb treatments except for 'drench by lack of DLWG'.

I find lambs stand too low in the clamp, which makes jabbing awkward,
For drenching, if you are right handed you either have to reach over the lamb or drench from the front.
Bolusing lambs is a absolute no- no I've found, I don't know if it's the pressure on the ribs or something, but from experience it's frankly just nerve racking, where as no issue what so ever in the drench race.
Tend to do all lamb treatments in the drench race..... at the expense of my knees as neilo points out.

Ewe treatments fine, but that's few and fair between, mostly pour on's, but don't really want dysect all over the clamp..... would probably melt half of it 😬😅
 

Kernowkid

Member
Either machine looks the Buisness tbh.
We’ve just ordered up the Te Pari DR3 for weighing and drafting. Will turn that into a one man job.
Will use my combi clamp for Crutching, jabbing and bcs for now. But maybe upgrade to the HD4 in the future
 

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