Teacher sacked for kicking a horse

[Exfarmer]

To be fair to the club, it was a good kick

 

[roscoe erf]

if another player kicked him like that he would get a red card!

he'd lay on the ground rolling about like a poofy ballet dancer for 10 minutes waiting for the magic sponge

 

[ollie989898]

Three worrying things about the Zouma footage:

You can hear someone laughing

He does it in front of a child.

Does it even though he knows he's being filmed.


Anyone who resorts to physical abuse of a small animal (apparently for fun) must have some serious personality defects.

Go easy on the poor bloke, he is only a footballer, after all. Not that many years ago he was probably smashing up bus stops to pass the time.

 

[primmiemoo]

he'd lay on he ground rolling about like a poofy ballet dancer for 10 minutes waiting for the magic sponge

Except ballet dancers are made of much sterner stuff. The footballer would be on the ground rolling about like other footballers.

 

[primmiemoo]

The RSPCA got the Warrant to seize the cats in record time. Shameful that Social Services dither so long to get Warrants to remove abused children from their tormentors. Sometimes they wait so long that children die.

 

[betweenthelines]

The RSPCA got the Warrant to seize the cats in record time. Shameful that Social Services dither so long to get Warrants to remove abused children from their tormentors. Sometimes they wait so long that children die.

Perhaps Social Services should be looking at the welfare of the child seen in the video-is the Zouma household a suitable place for a child?

 

[ollie989898]

The RSPCA got the Warrant to seize the cats in record time. Shameful that Social Services dither so long to get Warrants to remove abused children from their tormentors. Sometimes they wait so long that children die.

Our council struggles to organise timely bin collections. I'm not sure they can be trusted with much else to be honest.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

The RSPCA got the Warrant to seize the cats in record time. Shameful that Social Services dither so long to get Warrants to remove abused children from their tormentors. Sometimes they wait so long that children die.

There was something on the Today program this morning saying that it costs councils about £4500. PER WEEK!!! for a place in a children’s home. You’ve got to wonder how the provision of a safe environment for a child in need has got so out of kilter with reality. (Just to be clear - that means that putting a child into a children’s home for just two years costs almost half a million pounds.)

 

[britishblue]

That cost will be right. I remember being told what it costs years ago and it was astronomical. They held regular meetings about the child which had 13 people at them,social workers,doctors,police,countless do gooders etc!

 

[Exfarmer]

There was something on the Today program this morning saying that it costs councils about £4500. PER WEEK!!! for a place in a children’s home. You’ve got to wonder how the provision of a safe environment for a child in need has got so out of kilter with reality. (Just to be clear - that means that putting a child into a children’s home for just two years costs almost half a million pounds.)

Childrens homes are a farce, we have moved from the Dr Barnardos homes , where a good friend of mine grew up and then went on to prosper in the community. Where children were literally fenced in and frequently educated with aid of a cane.
To todays world where sometimes one, but often 3-4 are looked after by a rotating team of possibly 8-10 people, but they cannot physically restrict the liberty of the children, so the ones who are the most difficult rarely get any education and often get entwined in prostitution and the drugs trade.
Make no mistake some do come through the system well and of course many are grossly disturbed before they ever enter the system.
But it is very strange when we consider how much cheaper it would be to send many of these most difficult cases to Eton

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Childrens homes are a farce, we have moved from the Dr Barnardos homes , where a good friend of mine grew up and then went on to prosper in the community. Where children were literally fenced in and frequently educated with aid of a cane.
To todays world where sometimes one, but often 3-4 are looked after by a rotating team of possibly 8-10 people, but they cannot physically restrict the liberty of the children, so the ones who are the most difficult rarely get any education and often get entwined in prostitution and the drugs trade.
Make no mistake some do come through the system well and of course many are grossly disturbed before they ever enter the system.
But it is very strange when we consider how much cheaper it would be to send many of these most difficult cases to Eton

I’ve heard that before and it just seems wrong. As a dad, if I thought my kids were getting up to no good of an evening when they were 12,13,14 years old, I’d have a bloody good go at not allowing them out. It seems like a gross dereliction of duty that when ‘the authorities’ assume responsibility for children they do not restrict their liberty a bit where necessary.

30 to 40K a year for Eton?- peanuts! Maybe we SHOULD give kids in care a first-class boarding school education instead.

 

[primmiemoo]

Not only first class, but demonstrably safe and first class.

 

[Bald Rick]

Childrens homes are a farce, we have moved from the Dr Barnardos homes , where a good friend of mine grew up and then went on to prosper in the community. Where children were literally fenced in and frequently educated with aid of a cane.
To todays world where sometimes one, but often 3-4 are looked after by a rotating team of possibly 8-10 people, but they cannot physically restrict the liberty of the children, so the ones who are the most difficult rarely get any education and often get entwined in prostitution and the drugs trade.
Make no mistake some do come through the system well and of course many are grossly disturbed before they ever enter the system.
But it is very strange when we consider how much cheaper it would be to send many of these most difficult cases to Eton

Leslie Thomas - author of many a bawdy romp and humorous novels - was a Barnardos boy and wrote eloquently about it in his autobiography “This Time Next Week”

Leslie Thomas obituary

Outgoing author best known for The Virgin Soldiers, a comic novel about national service

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bald Rick]

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That would be the Kirsty Gallagher caught drink driving and banned for two years?

Which is worse?

 

[No wot]

There was something on the Today program this morning saying that it costs councils about £4500. PER WEEK!!! for a place in a children’s home. You’ve got to wonder how the provision of a safe environment for a child in need has got so out of kilter with reality. (Just to be clear - that means that putting a child into a children’s home for just two years costs almost half a million pounds.)

Some of theses kids are so mentally screwed up , that they soak up enormous financial resources, alot aren't your every day children

 

[melted welly]

That would be the Kirsty Gallagher caught drink driving and banned for two years?

Which is worse?

Go easy, we all know the rules are different for luvvies.

Plus she has a sore ear that prevents her getting up early, as wel…. so….errrr

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Go easy, we all know the rules are different for luvvies.

Plus she has a sore ear that prevents her getting up early, as wel…. so….errrr

so, is she famous then?

 

[Bald Rick]

Go easy, we all know the rules are different for luvvies.

Plus she has a sore ear that prevents her getting up early, as wel…. so….errrr

But it’s an interesting point though isn’t it?

Case one: drink driver

Case two: animal abuser

Which is worse?

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Some of theses kids are so mentally screwed up , that they soak up enormous financial resources, alot aren't your every day children

True. Some will be irreparably damaged in-utero through drink/drug use during pregnancy but many will have the potential to become valuable members of society. The two things that many will lack are 1) a loving, dependable parent figure at home. 2) boundaries/discipline. Sticking them in childrens homes where they get managed by committee and where they don’t have set boundaries isn’t going to help them.

 

[melted welly]

But it’s an interesting point though isn’t it?

Case one: drink driver

Case two: animal abuser

Which is worse?

It is, shows the double standards in polite society.

Someone posted the stats for animal abuse investigations last yr, agricultural ones were 30(?) domestic was in the tens of thousands. Yet which gets the more coverage?