Teacher sacked for kicking a horse

thesilentone

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Being scared is not having respect
Fear is a great motivator, and motivates others. Ask Alex Ferguson.

How did the old school teachers teach 50-60 children in one room, and produce better academic results than today ?

Discipline and fear, yes it's old fashioned, yes it's not for everyone, and yes the cane and stick were sometimes administered with to much enthusiasm.

But, it produced results.
 

czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
Fear is a great motivator, and motivates others. Ask Alex Ferguson.

How did the old school teachers teach 50-60 children in one room, and produce better academic results than today ?

Discipline and fear, yes it's old fashioned, yes it's not for everyone, and yes the cane and stick were sometimes administered with to much enthusiasm.

But, it produced results.

hmmm
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
So you agree with punching a horse in the head? None of my horsey friends agree with you. Guess we are all different.

One of the reasons we gave up on DIY liveries was the number of pony patters who’s dobbins were in charge of them, the pecking order being completely reversed.

Just how would your pony patting friends handle an 18 hand stallion rearing up on them in a 20’ square stable? He’d only got like that because he’d been allowed to think he was in charge, and was well beyond the simple ‘squaring up’ that would have put him in his place early on. Instead, he developed his behaviour to the extent that he was a danger to all but a couple of us, and we would still never trust him enough to turn our back on him. That majestic lad eventually had his life cut short as a result of pony patting feckwits and their handling of him.:(
 

roscoe erf

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Livestock Farmer
One of the reasons we gave up on DIY liveries was the number of pony patters who’s dobbins were in charge of them, the pecking order being completely reversed.

Just how would your pony patting friends handle an 18 hand stallion rearing up on them in a 20’ square stable? He’d only got like that because he’d been allowed to think he was in charge, and was well beyond the simple ‘squaring up’ that would have put him in his place early on. Instead, he developed his behaviour to the extent that he was a danger to all but a couple of us, and we would still never trust him enough to turn our back on him. That majestic lad eventually had his life cut short as a result of pony patting feckwits and their handling of him.:(
Trouble with so called animal lovers no idea how to handle them
 

Lincoln75

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There was a series of facebook posts recently about a local dog, an old terrier. Apparently it got into a scrap with another dog and afterwards the other owner kicked the poor little thing so hard it had to be taken to vet. It was diagnosed with internal bleeding and had to be put down. The owners reported this to the Police but wouldn't say in public who the other owners where.

This is obviously horrific - but because the name of the kicker has not been released I bet nothing comes of it.

The woman slapped a horse and has had her life ruined because the hunt sabs wanted to make an example of her because she was hunting.
Were it my terrier that got kicked the one doing the kicking would have been dealt with a little more robustly .
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Were it my terrier that got kicked the one doing the kicking would have been dealt with a little more robustly .

If a terrier attacked your dog when you were out walking it, maybe on a lead, and clamped his jaws on tight as terriers do in a scrap, how would you separate them?
If I couldn’t pull them apart easily, I would certainly use my foot to disrupt the argument before I put my fingers near them.

We only know half the story.
 

Lincoln75

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If a terrier attacked your dog when you were out walking it, maybe on a lead, and clamped his jaws on tight as terriers do in a scrap, how would you separate them?
If I couldn’t pull them apart easily, I would certainly use my foot to disrupt the argument before I put my fingers near them.

We only know half the story.
I still stand what I said , use your boot to separate/push them apart by all means , no need to kick them that hard it kills them, , I`ve unlocked terriers before by getting a hold of the jaws.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I still stand what I said , use your boot to separate/push them apart by all means , no need to kick them that hard it kills them, , I`ve unlocked terriers before by getting a hold of the jaws.

Obviously you should try to separate them first, but if ‘pushing them apart’ doesn’t work, what do you do then? As a last resort I would certainly use a boot, in a controlled manor obviously.
 

DeeGee

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Location
North East Wales
Someone I know had a livery yard and a new horse was attacking anyone who dared to enter his paddock.
The horse owner was told about this and responded by saying, ‘well, you see, it’s his territory, and in his mind you have no right to be there’.

The remedy was quick and efficient; the next day the land owner walked across his paddock and up to the horse in question with a a stout stick in his hand and went to walk past him. When the horse repeatedly refused to move it was whacked hard across the face with the piece of wood in good style.

There were no problems whatsoever after that.
Anyone who has a problem with this needs to get a life and wake up to reality.
 

Lincoln75

Member
Aha! So that’s alright then. I’ve seldom, if ever, read a greater double-standard in as short a sentence before. LOL.
Different species different standards, humans are supposed to be more intelligent than animals, sadly many aren't and sometimes need physical persuasion to show them the error of their ways.
 

essexpete

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Location
Essex
A farmer recently told me that their milk buyer advised them to assume everything they did on the farm was being filmed by animal rights activists, and to act accordingly. I think it was good advice. People involved in hunting should do the same.
That is good advice in today's world. Look at what happened on the Smith farm at St Osyth, Essex.
That is not to condone the woman's actions at the hunt. The whole situation is not entirely clear but striking the horse around the head after re catching is poor horsemanship. It is poor handling at any time to strike a horse around the head and creates problems. The exception, as pointed out in one or two posts, might be self defense from a very alpha animal and in some cases that point has been arrived at by poor handling early in the life of that animal.
Rightly or wrongly, a school teacher has a public image, I would think that needs to be squeaky clean in today's world.
 

Foxcover

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Someone I know had a livery yard and a new horse was attacking anyone who dared to enter his paddock.
The horse owner was told about this and responded by saying, ‘well, you see, it’s his territory, and in his mind you have no right to be there’.

The remedy was quick and efficient; the next day the land owner walked across his paddock and up to the horse in question with a a stout stick in his hand and went to walk past him. When the horse repeatedly refused to move it was whacked hard across the face with the piece of wood in good style.

There were no problems whatsoever after that.
Anyone who has a problem with this needs to get a life and wake up to reality.

Across the face :scratchhead:
 

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