Teacher sacked for kicking a horse

[roscoe erf]

Why? what have I said that would offend anyone and make them want to come and "teach me a lesson" I'm just trying to understand what's going on, and why they keep coming to our area even though they know we don't want it. The last thing I want to do is create any more conflict.

no idea what you've said but from what you've posted on here you certainly fall into the type of newcomer most don't want around, your not trying to understand your trying to change things if you don't want them on your land fair enough but that's where it should end

 

[Exfarmer]

I agree, which is why im asking the question here. There needs to be way more conversation about difficult issues and just threatening those who don't agree with what goes on is pointless to both sides of the argument.

The first thing to ascertain are these people you complain of doing a legal sport. Your description rather suggests not, but beagling to an aniseed trail is legal provided the landowner agrees or they are following a footpath.
Your description sounds like a bunch of pikies who think they can do as they like and the police should be called. But don’t hold your breath!

 

[roscoe erf]

Sadly I am certain he is right. There are any number of people who wish to change the countryside to the bucolic beauty they believe it should be.
We have a local group here who are wanting to change our local river, I am not against anything I have heard so far, but if you want to go clearing the fallen trees the weed blocking etc. Etc. Who would you consult first? I would suggest the riparian owners. Despite several public meetings not once has any approach been made!

yes its a sad state of affairs but not all want to change it got some lovely neighbours here who just get on with life and a few others who want to interfere in country life what's there's is special and the surrounding land should be the same

 

[Smith31]

The British public support British agriculture regardless of the vegan brigades best efforts. The British public are also animal lovers.

The issue here is that farming and hunting are seen as linked (countryside). Therefore if farmers are going to openly support this lady then they will be in conflict with their loyal customer/support base.

 

[Nearly]

Get your red coats on we've spotted the vermin.
Riding on horseback might not be an option with that headroom.

 

[Daddy Pig]

Certainly, plenty of people seem very quick and happy to be hitting cows for our (wife and I) tastes

I can remember years ago going to market with my dad and watching watching the drover in the cull cow ring hitting the cows for absolutely no reason, an unpleasant image that remains with me to this day.

 

[glasshouse]

@marcot
Well spotted sir
Thinking about a new thread
Women in jodhpurs
@Bald Rick start a new thread please

Max

Have u seen the tight leather type?
Oo er

 

[Red Fred]

Have u seen the tight leather type?
Oo er

See through lycra. Way to go

 

[marcot]

Steady boys

 

[Red Fred]

Steady boys

Sorry, I read the title and started thinking about "getting into trouble for smacking asses " and one thing led to another....

 

[glasshouse]

Sorry, I read the title and started thinking about "getting into trouble for smacking asses " and one thing led to another....

 

[Benj]

from what you've posted on here you certainly fall into the type of newcomer most don't want around

Please be more specific - is it because i'm standing up for the animals on my land? the way i write? yes i'm obviously middle class but does that automatically make me a twit?
I grew up working on farms, most of my mates were farm kids, most of my best memories are of messing about on tractors and helping get the hay into the barn - boy does that make you itch, the rashes were legendary!
None of this is relevant to the situation I'm trying (very politely) to resolve.

 

[honeyend]

So this could be done in our valley instead of the foot packs coming. That would be a good solution. Why doesn't everyone do it this way and save the bother of upsetting the neighbours?

I would think that someone who do the job safely and humanely, it would cost money. People pay subs to follow packs, which should cover the costs, including fence mending, a good pack will have people whose job it is to follow and tidy up. Packs often offer a cheap or free fallen stock service to landowners.
If its an organised pack it will have a Master( some have several), and Huntsman, the Master usually gets to know land owners, and send out a meet list, and contacts you if they are likely to go near your land, or ask permission to cross it, but it does depend on how good they are with people.
So I would ask which hunt it is, they should be a member MFHA, or contact the closest ones on this list,https://thehuntingoffice.org.uk/

 

[Forkdriver]

The minority who keep sheep!

If you want to get rid of a load of foxes a foot pack flushed to guns is very effective. And fun

 

[borderterribles]

If you watch the video in the OP , the young lady in question aims a bit of a kick( which doesn't appear to connect with the horse) and slaps it across the head. It was being a t#%t, having got away from the girl who was trying to load it. She re-established herself as being in charge, and it loads meekly straight after. Some on here might like to imagine how they might react if THEY were in that situation, on the side of a country road, with several horses and young children, with the ar$eholes in black for company, and one horse starts being a dick? For what it's worth, I 'd a damn sight sooner have my kids taught by a teacher who hunts, takes her own kids hunting and knows how to straighten a horse up , long before I'd want them influenced by the class obsessed, oft balaclavad terrorists that masquerade as hunt saboteurs. When you've had them at the end of your drive waiting for you,some of you might change your minds.

 

[quattro]

I would think that someone who do the job safely and humanely, it would cost money. People pay subs to follow packs, which should cover the costs, including fence mending, a good pack will have people whose job it is to follow and tidy up. Packs often offer a cheap or free fallen stock service to landowners.
If its an organised pack it will have a Master( some have several), and Huntsman, the Master usually gets to know land owners, and send out a meet list, and contacts you if they are likely to go near your land, or ask permission to cross it, but it does depend on how good they are with people.
So I would ask which hunt it is, they should be a member MFHA, or contact the closest ones on this list,https://thehuntingoffice.org.uk/

There’s plenty of people who will go and shoot foxes for free
there’s no hunting with dogs and horses round here and certainly not overrun with foxes
what did surprise me about shooting foxes, the shooters don’t just go and kill all the foxes they come across

 

[betweenthelines]

no idea what you've said but from what you've posted on here you certainly fall into the type of newcomer most don't want around, your not trying to understand your trying to change things if you don't want them on your land fair enough but that's where it should end

Anyone else noticed that when questioned about what they do, the hunting (and shooting) fraternity always claim they have the support of the majority of countryside dwellers?

This is rubbish, the vast majority of people who live in the country (old and new) don't actively support hunting. I think many are cowed into accepting it in order to "fit in" or because they are in some way indebted to landowners who support or participate in hunting in some form or another.

To claim that rural dwellers "support" hunting is akin to saying every town dweller backs veganism because they don't actively object to it or it's practicioners.

 

[Longlowdog]

@betweenthelines ,I think you're going to have to accept that you move in different circles to a lot of us. I don't know anyone in my circle of friends who objects to hunting , shooting or fishing. No-one has walked out of my home despite the plentiful pictures of hounds, deer, fish, winged game. Even my townie mates from school 35 years ago are curious rather than objecting when they want to know what drives me to be so different from them and when I explain rationally to them the answers to their questions I've never had anyone insult or 'unfriend' or gasp...threaten to drop me from the Crimbo card list.
Also, I think you forget, just because you live in a country postcode doesn't make you a country person. Plenty of urban minds fed by social media frenzies and misinformation dwell among us but are not a part of us.

 

[Benj]

Also, I think you forget, just because you live in a country postcode doesn't make you a country person.

Who would you consider to fall into your category of a country person? I'm guessing you wouldn't include doctors and nurses who oppose your views, but want a slice of the good life, or the people who keep the lights on, or even the vets who keep your animals healthy? I'm genuinely interested because if my neighbours are of the same opinion then I don't stand a chance of them seeing things from my side of the fence

 

[Daddy Pig]

@betweenthelines ,I think you're going to have to accept that you move in different circles to a lot of us. I don't know anyone in my circle of friends who objects to hunting , shooting or fishing. No-one has walked out of my home despite the plentiful pictures of hounds, deer, fish, winged game. Even my townie mates from school 35 years ago are curious rather than objecting when they want to know what drives me to be so different from them and when I explain rationally to them the answers to their questions I've never had anyone insult or 'unfriend' or gasp...threaten to drop me from the Crimbo card list.
Also, I think you forget, just because you live in a country postcode doesn't make you a country person. Plenty of urban minds fed by social media frenzies and misinformation dwell among us but are not a part of us.

round here most of the so called country people ( hunting and shooting) live in London and come down here in their Range Rovers for the weekend. very few locals partake in these activities nowadays.