Tedder and Rake or Kuhn Combination Rake/Tedder ?

[johnsb10]

All

Looking for some help. At present I use a Tedder and then a separate rake to get good swaths for a Vicon round baler.

I see that Khun are selling a 3.6m Combination rake and Tedder. Does anyone have any experience of these ?.

Thanks

 

[Angus]

All

Looking for some help. At present I use a Tedder and then a separate rake to get good swaths for a Vicon round baler.

I see that Khun are selling a 3.6m Combination rake and Tedder. Does anyone have any experience of these ?.

Thanks

Is that the haybob 360 you are talking about?

 

[KB6930]

Stick with what you're doing I baled behind a combination redder until we took our rake in as well one day we were passing the old boy thought he was making a grand job rowing up till he seen how clean the rake left the stubble

 

[balerman]

Is that the haybob 360 you are talking about?

It will be,think of it as a haybob for tedding(which it is)but works the same way as a single rotor rake for rowing up,but does a much better job.Very underated machine IMO,im pleased Kuhn are continueing with it.

 

[johnsb10]

Thanks for the replies it really is helpful.

This is what I was thinking of :-

http://www.kuhn.co.uk/uk/range/hay-silage-making/tedder-rake-combinations/haybob-360.html

 

[DeeGee]

I’m sure it will do a good job of raking cleanly, but it is unlikely to spread and scatter as well as a proper tedder.

Speaking from experience this 360 and the standard Haybob are a great universal machine if that is what you need. However if you have been used to a purpose made tedder, the Haybob will never scatter out as well.

 

[Jim B]

Jack of all trades, master of none...

 

[Selectamatic]

I have one, and for what I want, it is brilliant.

It will always be second place to a proper tedder or a rake, but as a all round machine, it is a proper thing!

I'd not be without mine now.

 

[Jellyfarm]

As above. Not the best at either but half the price of 2 machines and does 90% job of both. Definitely recommended if not big acreages of silage or hay.
J

 

[Wellytrack]

Have the dealer come out and set it up for you in both types of work, not knocking the machine - wrongly set up it makes a horrendous mess.

 

[Jellyfarm]

Just follow instructions. Only wheel heights and top link adjustment possible.
J

 

[Deutzdx3]

They are a good machine. I have both. Big fields I use tedder and rake separate. Small fields 1-3 acres use the 360. I love them. When ever I see one I get it if good price. They also do a 4.2 m version called a jumbo. Never used one mind. It doesn’t rake as clean as a rotary rake nor tedd out as well as a tedder but does a job.

 

[balerman]

Have the dealer come out and set it up for you in both types of work, not knocking the machine - wrongly set up it makes a horrendous mess.

True but RTFM.

 

[balerman]

On rough undulating fields I reckon it is better than a single rotor for raking,smaller rotors get in the hollows better.

 

[neilo]

If I was looking for a 'combination' machine, I'd be keen to look at an Enorossi DR420. Not as cheap as a haybob, but the vertical tines should at least be better for raking cleaner than a haybob.

Anybody got one?

 

[Pringles]

A proper haybob with either PZ or Kuhn stickers on will run rings round that machine, just look at the mess it’s making of shaking out in the clip @neilo .
I would also be willing to bet a bag of wine gums that second hand values of PZ or Kuhn would be well above some Italian built tedder.

 

[neilo]

A proper haybob with either PZ or Kuhn stickers on will run rings round that machine, just look at the mess it’s making of shaking out in the clip @neilo .
I would also be willing to bet a bag of wine gums that second hand values of PZ or Kuhn would be well above some Italian built tedder.

I haven’t really looked at one personally, having decided to add a proper tedder to my existing rake back in the summer.
It must be truly awful if a haybob can ‘run rings round it’ though.
I just thought it looked a different take on the Jack of all trades idea.

 

[Red Fred]

That Enrossi reminds me very much of my old New Holland 253 tedder-rake. Did they buy the rights and develop them? Edited to add it is actually closer to the old 254 which was bigger

 

[balerman]

If I was looking for a 'combination' machine, I'd be keen to look at an Enorossi DR420. Not as cheap as a haybob, but the vertical tines should at least be better for raking cleaner than a haybob.

Anybody got one?

Reminds me of the old Fransgard T5000.I remember being called to bale a field the forager gang refused to do.Turned out it was the first field to go in the clamp and the farmer had tedded it out with the T5000 to dry it more,then raked it up with same machine,i say raked but it wasn't rows but a series of lumps of grass.I did manage to bale it,but I don't think that machine ever say the light of day again.ive only ever seen one other and to be fair did make a reasonable row,but I don't think they used it for tedding,the action is all wrong which the video demonstrated.Resale would be very poor.