Telehandler Size

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
The problem is they don’t send a small lorry to a small farm and I don’t like holding them up. Hiring a machine doesn’t work as I never know when lorries will turn up and neighbours machines arent stood idle.
I reckon the bucket on my 626 holds 1.2 t wheat at best so I reckon 30 buckets to fill a wagon. Struggle to load a bucket a minute as the hydraulics seem slow ( lowering ironically) so I end up taking 45 minutes to load.
The other solution I had in mind was a giant double chained Parmiter that I bought cheap. Supposed to shift 80 tons per hour. Fill it fast and low in its hopper with any old small loader more quickly than putting it over the side in the bucket but the Parmiter is a huge unwieldy beast to set up and needs work on the conveyor floors.
For the time being I’m renovating what I can on the 626 and mulling it over.
It’s true that in 200 acres we are struggling to justify the size of kit to meet the present day haulage interface but a big loader to see us through to retirement might bring more joy than any other present investment I can think of.

Replace the check valve if it not lowering properly, series 2 and 3 models can be easy adjusted if its just a delay on the lowering though.
Would need serial number to see what you have.
 
Loader on a 150 hp tractor with toe tip bucket 4.2 m clearance and clear view between truck and bucket is quicker than telehandler no crowding bucket into the trailer loading over the sheet no problem
and new costs third of the price

best day we have is 12 loads

loader can be removed in 2 minutes a descent weight on the 3pl is useful
 

lloyd

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Location
Herefordshire
Loader on a 150 hp tractor with toe tip bucket 4.2 m clearance and clear view between truck and bucket is quicker than telehandler no crowding bucket into the trailer loading over the sheet no problem
and new costs third of the price

best day we have is 12 loads

loader can be removed in 2 minutes a descent weight on the 3pl is useful
A 7m reach large telehandler with a 2t bucket is very fast ,no comparison .
 
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2wheels

Member
Location
aberdeenshire
Loader on a 150 hp tractor with toe tip bucket 4.2 m clearance and clear view between truck and bucket is quicker than telehandler no crowding bucket into the trailer loading over the sheet no problem
and new costs third of the price

best day we have is 12 loads

loader can be removed in 2 minutes a descent weight on the 3pl is useful
we had a similar yoke. 23 bucketfuls to load 29tonnes wheat in a half hour turn round for the lorry, brother on the loader.
 
I wouldn't want a truck hanging around for any longer than 30 minutes because wherever I have worked previous there have been multiple trucks a day to contend with.

Get a hydrostatic or CVT machine and save your left knee. Seriously, people out there still playing 'hold me on the brake pedal' don't know what they are missing. It is a game-changer to have a Kramer or Merlo and having a left leg doing not a lot when driving the machine- drive up to truck. Unhook drive, work boom, engage drive and off you go.

Loading trucks all day with a 4 or 5 tonne Merlo or similar would be my idea of heaven. It's very therapeutic.
 

quattro

Member
Location
scotland
I wouldn't want a truck hanging around for any longer than 30 minutes because wherever I have worked previous there have been multiple trucks a day to contend with.

Get a hydrostatic or CVT machine and save your left knee. Seriously, people out there still playing 'hold me on the brake pedal' don't know what they are missing. It is a game-changer to have a Kramer or Merlo and having a left leg doing not a lot when driving the machine- drive up to truck. Unhook drive, work boom, engage drive and off you go.

Loading trucks all day with a 4 or 5 tonne Merlo or similar would be my idea of heaven. It's very therapeutic.
Anytime you need any therapy u can come here and load 1750tons some days 6ton machine!!
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I have tried a few bigger machines today and compared to my 626 they feel like trying to maneouvre the Queen Mary and some set off as slowly even with plenty of revs. Anything under £25k has a problem or two and I have plenty of those already so I am sticking with the 626 for a bit longer and giving it a birthday.
Quite like the wheeled loading shovel idea though.
 

quattro

Member
Location
scotland
I have tried a few bigger machines today and compared to my 626 they feel like trying to maneouvre the Queen Mary and some set off as slowly even with plenty of revs. Anything under £25k has a problem or two and I have plenty of those already so I am sticking with the 626 for a bit longer and giving it a birthday.
Quite like the wheeled loading shovel idea though.
you need very good concrete floors for a loading shovel with a big bucket
 

DRC

Member
The problem is they don’t send a small lorry to a small farm and I don’t like holding them up. Hiring a machine doesn’t work as I never know when lorries will turn up and neighbours machines arent stood idle.
I reckon the bucket on my 626 holds 1.2 t wheat at best so I reckon 30 buckets to fill a wagon. Struggle to load a bucket a minute as the hydraulics seem slow ( lowering ironically) so I end up taking 45 minutes to load.
The other solution I had in mind was a giant double chained Parmiter that I bought cheap. Supposed to shift 80 tons per hour. Fill it fast and low in its hopper with any old small loader more quickly than putting it over the side in the bucket but the Parmiter is a huge unwieldy beast to set up and needs work on the conveyor floors.
For the time being I’m renovating what I can on the 626 and mulling it over.
It’s true that in 200 acres we are struggling to justify the size of kit to meet the present day haulage interface but a big loader to see us through to retirement might bring more joy than any other present investment I can think of.
I’d have thought if you can load a wagon in 30/40 mins you’re doing ok. They often have to wait hours to be unloaded at mills like Lloyds around here. I seem to get them loaded and often they still wait a bit longer as they have the taco on a break .
 

dave mountain

Member
Livestock Farmer
I have tried a few bigger machines today and compared to my 626 they feel like trying to maneouvre the Queen Mary and some set off as slowly even with plenty of revs. Anything under £25k has a problem or two and I have plenty of those already so I am sticking with the 626 for a bit longer and giving it a birthday.
Quite like the wheeled loading shovel idea though.
just had a quick look, they still have a few of the case 721s left but this looks nice too, little bit smaller but thats probably not a bad thing


this is the same ones i looked at a while back: https://www.modsurplus.co.uk/index....e-721-cxt-wheeled-loader-with-bucket-no-winch

another good thing is that ex-mod ones have the tool carrier boom rather than the Z bar linkage which is much better if you want to use grabs, pallet forks etc.
 

quattro

Member
Location
scotland
just had a quick look, they still have a few of the case 721s left but this looks nice too, little bit smaller but thats probably not a bad thing


this is the same ones i looked at a while back: https://www.modsurplus.co.uk/index....e-721-cxt-wheeled-loader-with-bucket-no-winch

another good thing is that ex-mod ones have the tool carrier boom rather than the Z bar linkage which is much better if you want to use grabs, pallet forks etc.
How much is something like those
 

dave mountain

Member
Livestock Farmer
not sure, you would have to email them, probably not much less than a decent handler but you get a lot more for your money. shovels will last forever on farm work, its a lot easier on the machine than quarrying. most quarries/mines would keep them to 20-30k hours anyhow (sometimes more), albeit with a few big repairs.
 
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Hawkes

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
devon
We had a Case 721 BXT loading our sawmill for quite a few years, brilliant bit of kit. It used to run pretty much a 40 hr week, lovely big Cummins engine, air brakes etc. The only trouble we had with it was the heat exchanger for the transmission oil, otherwise very reliable and a very comfortable capable drive. We used a log grab and a chip bucket but it came to us at a couple of years old with a vast toe tip bucket from an intervention grain store.
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
Do you *really* need a telehandler? 1000t isn't enough to justify a machine if you have a decent tractor that could run a toe tip bucket. Less than a wagon a week.
A telehandler with a pick up hitch is nearly as handy as a tractor for shunting around the yard. As someone else has said a loading shovel would be best but the flexibility of a telehandler is it's ace card and as ever in these threads, look at the Kramer. I drive most, but am happiest when it's a Kramer. Speed and smoothness in one.
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
Loader on a 150 hp tractor with toe tip bucket 4.2 m clearance and clear view between truck and bucket is quicker than telehandler no crowding bucket into the trailer loading over the sheet no problem
and new costs third of the price

best day we have is 12 loads

loader can be removed in 2 minutes a descent weight on the 3pl is useful
But a telehandler with a toe tip bucket is quicker ;)
 

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