Tenant farm, new application, what to propose to pay

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
Hello everyone,

I am applying for a tenant farm which has a heavy focus on conservation, sustainability and diversification. Its an 84 hectare holding, has a farmhouse and some farm buildings (many in need of repair/ not suitable for livestock).

We would be farming sheep and some native breed cattle, but also have an income from my job part time. The landowner doesn't want heavy grazing/ like a normal commercial farm so we may be restricted on numbers...which will obviously affect income.

How much would you suggest to pay (per annum ideally) for something like this?
Emigrate!
One way or the other, the UK s f**ked. Get out while you can.
 
Of the three recently granted tenancies that I know of, the landlord/owner has all but word perfect in each case said - "The rent will be your SFP".
Now that IS interesting. Is that SFP just for that holding? or TOTAL SFP of tenant including other land?
If SFP just for that holding...then there is none as the payment is now BFP.
sorry to sound "clever" but I know how these AH's think.
Get this, a good friend who is neighbour of mine claims that he was offered by another neighbour £300 per ac until 2022 on his heavily mortgaged freehold land, his wife (fairly high maintenance wife) wants him to take it and go get a job.
When I first got married his old dad advised me to "keep yer missus well F***ked and poorly shod".
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
France cannot be such a great place to live that immigrants from all over the world risk their lives in small boats to flee the country and live in our wonderful country. I don't hear of many going the other way do you?
So if you were an illegal immigrant where would you go? To a country where you can‘t speak the language? The country which treats coloureds as lesser people? The country where you can’t work without papers?
Or do you go to a country where you can speak the language, where people of all colours are treated equally, where cash jobs are were ten a penny?
 
Not only that but they are sold a dream that the streets of London/England are paved with gold. I would imagine that once most of them have experienced a winter living in the uk that their view of the place begins to change quite rapidly in a lot of cases, by which time it is too late and they are ensconced on the gravy train. I am not really in a position to judge seeing as I have moved my family to a new country for a better life.
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
So if you were an illegal immigrant where would you go? To a country where you can‘t speak the language? The country which treats coloureds as lesser people? The country where you can’t work without papers?
Or do you go to a country where you can speak the language, where people of all colours are treated equally, where cash jobs are were ten a penny?
This is the point. The immigrants and refugees that stay in France already speak French. It is on course to be the worlds most spoken language by 2050.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
So if you were an illegal immigrant where would you go? To a country where you can‘t speak the language? The country which treats coloureds as lesser people? The country where you can’t work without papers?
Or do you go to a country where you can speak the language, where people of all colours are treated equally, where cash jobs are were ten a penny?
I don't know what's happening across the channel, but to someone from a very poor country who hears that 'in England, if you can't work because there's some illness about...they just pay you anyway!' ....well, you'd probably think how nice that must be.
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
I don't know what's happening across the channel, but to someone from a very poor country who hears that 'in England, if you can't work because there's some illness about...they just pay you anyway!' ....well, you'd probably think how nice that must be.
You get nothing here until you're registered. Then once the paperwork is done, maybe 6 months + for that, food stamps and very basic accommodation. No one will employ you not even on the black. The Flick are on your back all the time.
After all that it will take about 4 years to get family reunification approved. Its 6 months in the UK.
So where would you go?
 

Ceri

Member
Ok back to how much rent to pay instead of France v GB if your a refugee or someone who thinks grass greener on the other side offer them £60/hectare if that's not enough tell them politely & in a politically correct way to "get f**k*d.... Honstly best advice I ever had was very simply don't become anyone's bitch 😉😉😉😉
 

Ceri

Member
Ok back to how much rent to pay instead of France v GB if your a refugee or someone who thinks grass greener on the other side offer them £60/hectare if that's not enough tell them politely & in a politically correct way to "get f**k*d.... Honstly best advice I ever had was very simply don't become anyone's bitch 😉😉😉😉
£60/hectare there's the answer you were looking for..
 

Milking shepherd

Member
Livestock Farmer
The person who posted this was the lady who was say yes or no to application for the Yorkshire water tenancy. Joke when they have to lie to know what there land worth.
 

ajcc

Member
Livestock Farmer
The person who posted this was the lady who was say yes or no to application for the Yorkshire water tenancy. Joke when they have to lie to know what there land worth.
We are flattered, but she didn’t get much indication/help other than fairly abstract answers for how much to pay or to charge?
Hope they find the tenants they deserve.
 

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