Tesco stocking Argentinian beef in some Welsh stores!!

[czechmate]

Trying to get on thread, why is tesco less "uk loyal" for buying Argentinian beef, than a uk farmer is for buying Egyptian urea, Nisan, JD, Kuhn, Amazon etc etc?

 

[czechmate]

An interesting concept; somewhat similar to the old CO-OP and ASDA and whatever happened to farmer's markets?

As an outsider looking in, I think that we have all been hoodwinked over BREXIT! We pawns have been very astutely manipulated into making a decision that our masters wanted to make but were afraid to.

Worried about Argentinian beef; what about plastic lamb? Recent reports tell us that there has been an artificial womb developed for keeping premature babies alive; rather than using O2 incubators. The plastic bag type womb, fed by nutrient rich fluids, has been used to support a number of lambs to full term and then delivered in tact. I wonder how long it will be before the scientists can organise conception, growth to term, and healthy delivery from a plastic bag?
Probably, the clever geneticists could even ensure that only the best cuts of lamb are grown.

A brave new world; or is it still April 1st?

It's a sh!t new world and in all honesty I am very grateful to be nearer the end of my life than the beginning.

 

[gone up the hill]

Trying to get on thread, why is tesco less "uk loyal" for buying Argentinian beef, than a uk farmer is for buying Egyptian urea, Nisan, JD, Kuhn, Amazon etc etc?

Because our beef is reared to much higher welfare standards and not grown using growth promoters/ GM food etc.

As for machinery, most UK machinery is very poorly made and before long you will end up with massive repair bills to keep it going ( let alone you can get parts from Germany overnight yet to get a part for a UK machine can take a week/ 10 days even thou its only 200 miles up the road.

Take straw choppers, Teagle make them and so do the French firm Lucas, which one is the best selling one in the UK and why??

 

[czechmate]

Because our beef is reared to much higher welfare standards and not grown using growth promoters/ GM food etc.

As for machinery, most UK machinery is very poorly made and before long you will end up with massive repair bills to keep it going ( let alone you can get parts from Germany overnight yet to get a part for a UK machine can take a week/ 10 days even thou its only 200 miles up the road.

Take straw choppers, Teagle make them and so do the French firm Lucas, which one is the best selling one in the UK and why??

In a free country that is for the housewife to decide for herself though, just as the farmer can choose what metal to buy. Nothing wrong with uk AN, we just buy imported urea because it's cheaper

 

[gone up the hill]

In a free country that is for the housewife to decide for herself though, just as the farmer can choose what metal to buy. Nothing wrong with uk AN, we just buy imported urea because it's cheaper

Not when the supermarkets make us jump thru hoops like farm assurance to supply them but then said supermarkets will quite happily go and buy imported beef that isn't assured to fill the shelves with!

Then there is the 15pk they deduct for UK animals that have had over 4 moves, no doubt that wont apply to this imported beef!

 

[czechmate]

Not when the supermarkets make us jump thru hoops like farm assurance to supply them but then said supermarkets will quite happily go and buy imported beef that isn't assured to fill the shelves with!

Then there is the 15pk they deduct for UK animals that have had over 4 moves, no doubt that wont apply to this imported beef!

Maybe foreign urea plants don't have good safety standards? Can't say it worries me when I buy it.

 

[Christoph1945]

Czechmate,

with the wisdom of age, we can often see better to make a real difference to the direction that our world may take. Don't be tempted to press the eject button just yet.

 

[fgc325j]

28 April 2017 10:34:01 | Meat Processing,News,Produce,Supermarkets
Tesco to stock Argentinian beef in some stores, local farmers disappointed

The Tesco Argentinian beef trial has faced criticism from the farming industry
Farmers have said they are disappointed with Tesco's decision to stock Argentinian beef in some of its Welsh stores on a limited trial basis.
NFU Cymru said that retailers need to strengthen their commitment Welsh and British produce.
NFU Cymru Deputy President, John Davies said: “NFU Cymru welcomes the moves by certain retailers to strengthen their commitment to Welsh and British produce, with some even committing to 100% sourcing of British meat.
“These commitments are in tune with public sentiment, as we know that 73% of the public want to support the British farming industry by buying British food.
“Welsh and British farmers adhere to the highest animal welfare standards and produce world-class products, therefore consumers know that when they buy British they’re getting a quality product.
“With this week being Great British Beef Week, it was the perfect opportunity for supermarkets to be celebrating the great products we have, therefore it is disappointing that Tesco has taken the decision to stock a branded line of Argentinian beef, albeit on a limited trial basis.
“NFU Cymru continues to work with all retailers to encourage them to support Welsh livestock farmers.”
Great British Beef Week, which runs from 23 April to 1 May, is now in its seventh year and aims to encourage everyone to celebrate the quality and versatility of British beef, and the farmers who bring it to plates across the UK.

Tell me something new!!!!!!!!!! - i remember seeing Argy beef for sale in the Tesco branch in Cardigan well over
10 years ago - wasn't a success from what i remember and Tesco eventually stopped the offering.

 

[Hindsight]

Because our beef is reared to much higher welfare standards and not grown using growth promoters/ GM food etc.

As for machinery, most UK machinery is very poorly made and before long you will end up with massive repair bills to keep it going ( let alone you can get parts from Germany overnight yet to get a part for a UK machine can take a week/ 10 days even thou its only 200 miles up the road.

Take straw choppers, Teagle make them and so do the French firm Lucas, which one is the best selling one in the UK and why??

Maybe not get parts overnight from Germany if no agreement on tariffs and customs. Maybe that is part of the grand plan - make us buy British machinery because lorries are stuck at ports filling out paperwork and collecting stamps on paperwork.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Because our beef is reared to much higher welfare standards and not grown using growth promoters/ GM food etc.

As for machinery, most UK machinery is very poorly made and before long you will end up with massive repair bills to keep it going ( let alone you can get parts from Germany overnight yet to get a part for a UK machine can take a week/ 10 days even thou its only 200 miles up the road.

Take straw choppers, Teagle make them and so do the French firm Lucas, which one is the best selling one in the UK and why??

Lotvof uk farmers have locked themselves into a high cost system .What's a straw chopper ?

 

[Courier]

As for machinery, most UK machinery is very poorly made and before long you will end up with massive repair bills to keep it going ( let alone you can get parts from Germany overnight yet to get a part for a UK machine can take a week/ 10 days even thou its only 200 miles up the road ??

No need for that from a UK manufacturer - We got a call from a Major UK veg grower after 17:00 on a Tuesday afternoon about a part for a machine which was in stock at the manufacture in South Yorkshire - It was left out for us to collect and delivered to the dealer 70 miles north of Dundee by 05:30 next morning (Wednesday).
That is what we are here for.

 

[7610 super q]

Why has this descended into a Brexit topic ?

TESCO ARE SELLING ARGENTINIAN BEEF IN WELSH STORES NOW.

 

[banjo]

I thnk some older Welsh guards would have something to say about this if they carry on, many not keen on the argies after the conflict there!

 

[sleepy]

Why has this descended into a Brexit topic ?

TESCO ARE SELLING ARGENTINIAN BEEF IN WELSH STORES NOW.

Testing the waters so to speak.

 

[Hilly]

Patriotism is a love for your home and country. Nationalism is a dislike or hatred of you neighbours. Neither is 'racism'
All can be dangerously divisive. You need look no further than recent Central European history for proof. Or the island of Ireland if you must have an example on our doorstep.
Don't think that such violence and disruption is so very far away in Scotland, whipped up by Nationalism. More and more English are tending to think 'fudge 'em' and cast them out on their own and remove all English/UK investment from there, including the military, shipbuilding [for the military] and everything else. Send back the RBS to them with the bill for rescuing it for immediate payment.

That's the kind of divisive sh!t you get when nationalism is fostered and becomes dominant. Its always someone else's fault though and they are always hard done by.

Well said, could not have put it better myself.

 

[7610 super q]

Testing the waters so to speak.

Back in the year 1999/ 2000, just as we were about to start lifting early organic potatoes, Tesco starting importing them in large quantities from Israel, which f**ked the job up.
Testing the waters then were they ?
Folks need to accept supermarkets are pansies. Brexit won't change anything.

 

[bobk]

Is foot and mouth still endemic in Argentina ?

 

[Hilly]

Is foot and mouth still endemic in Argentina ?

http://www.globalmeatnews.com/Indus...f-exports-to-EU-once-FMD-linked-ban-is-lifted

Nothing to do with brexit.

 

[GTB]

I still think the government will come to their senses and realise that with over 60 million mouths to feed , three times a day, it would be madness to rely on foreign imports, or risk UK ag going bust overnight.

The supermarket shelves will have to run empty before they do realise but it will happen at some point.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Is foot and mouth still endemic in Argentina ?

My thought exactly, didn't Tony Blair do a deal with the Argentinians when their economy was in mess to buy beef off them, not long before F&M in 2001?

It's only a matter of time before it happens again and judging by some of the opinions on this forum on the effects of brexit on agriculture I can see it being the last nail in the coffin for many who simply wouldn't re stock.