TFF promoting carbon capture rip off

[DrDunc]

Just received an email from TFF promoting a company who want to sell farm carbon credits to big industry.

What a bàstard rip off company! Why are TFF promoting companies like this?

On the company's website they give an example of the annual income expected from sales. The annual fee they take is 25%!!!!!!!

 

[RAF]

Paid advertising money talks morals out the window
All hypocrites

 

[ajd132]

Just received an email from TFF promoting a company who want to sell farm carbon credits to big industry.

What a bàstard rip off company! Why are TFF promoting companies like this?

On the company's website they give an example of the annual income expected from sales. The annual fee they take is 25%!!!!!!!

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It’s not an annual fee, buffer pools are built into the UN ISO legislation to cover non conformance but you get it eventually.

 

[wanton dwarf]

I plant a cover crop of Winter Wheat .. doesn't this mean most of us should be getting £3058+ more money plus back pay for all the previous crops ?

They better get handing out the cash pronto.

It’s not an annual fee, buffer pools are built into the UN ISO legislation to cover non conformance but you get it eventually.

If the documentation is stated as a "Fee" then I would say that legally they can take that money and keep it.

 

[warksfarmer]

Just received an email from TFF promoting a company who want to sell farm carbon credits to big industry.

What a bàstard rip off company! Why are TFF promoting companies like this?

On the company's website they give an example of the annual income expected from sales. The annual fee they take is 25%!!!!!!!

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Don’t sign up to that. Leave it 12 months and they’ll be a proper market. The supermarket I’ve spoken to are talking significant amounts of money. That offer above is just a joke.

 

[RAF]

He’s idea why don’t we hold the supermarkets to ransom ? Name our price

 

[ajd132]

Carbon offset certificates will be a world commodity market that will fluctuate with supply and demand.
what we want to be getting on top of those is money for natural capital and eco system services, growing protocols, standards etc

 

[Hilly]

Carbon credits is a disgrace the whole thjng needs scrapped . Stupid idea

 

[Chris F]

There are 3 companies in the market - they all advertise with us in one way or another.

They can all put money in farmers pockets rather than taking it off you.

 

[ajd132]

Carbon credits is a disgrace the whole thjng needs scrapped . Stupid idea

It’s happening all around the world. It’s not going to stop. We either embrace it and profit from it or let someone else take the profit.

 

[Chris F]

It’s happening all around the world. It’s not going to stop. We either embrace it and profit from it or let someone else take the profit.

Sums is up. Waiting to get involved is the wrong approach, as its a use it or lose it system, waiting to sell however, that's a different matter.

 

[Hilly]

It’s happening all around the world. It’s not going to stop. We either embrace it and profit from it or let someone else take the profit.

It will stop if no one supports it .

 

[Steevo]

There are 3 companies in the market - they all advertise with us in one way or another.

They can all put money in farmers pockets rather than taking it off you.

That depends if the money they are putting in farmers pockets is reflective of the value of the product the farmer is providing.

Paying me £10 for a Ming vase is putting money in my pocket, but also ripping me off.

 

[Chris F]

It will stop if no one supports it .

Its an international market and companies like google have been offsetting for 17 years now. It's plenty supported. It's not stopping and once carbon is taxed, it will grow.

Now the ethics behind it are a different matter. The real net gain of planting tree's is vastly wrong (in my opinion). But that's another question.

But this is an instance where farmers get to have the cake and eat it too.

 

[warksfarmer]

There are 3 companies in the market - they all advertise with us in one way or another.

They can all put money in farmers pockets rather than taking it off you.

Give it 12 months and you won’t need a broker which is what these companies are.

 

[Chris F]

That depends if the money they are putting in farmers pockets is reflective of the value of the product the farmer is providing.

Paying me £10 for a Ming vase is putting money in my pocket, but also ripping me off.

It's something you aren't selling at all right now? And you decide when to sell the credits, they just help you measure. You don't have to sell, just bank the credits. Just as you don't have to sell wheat at harvest, you can store and sell when you want. This is not a perishable item though.

 

[Chris F]

Give it 12 months and you won’t need a broker which is what these companies are.

You don't need a broker now.

All these companies are just systems to help you measure and bank. They will act as broker if you want them to. In fact, they will certainly offer to. But they aren't primarily brokers.

 

[Hilly]

Money changes hands carbon still produced , its ball cocks

 

[ajd132]

Give it 12 months and you won’t need a broker which is what these companies are.

They aren’t. We don’t have to use them to sell anything, they allow you to quantify what you have to sell to Iso standard. They will sell it on your behalf if you ask them to though.

 

[ajd132]

It will stop if no one supports it .

What would you prefer.
.vast amounts of land being bought up at prices way beyond what a farmer can afford and planted with trees to offset carbon
Or
Farmers being able to sell their carbon sequestration yearly on a world market whilst still farming and producing food?