The BBC does it again!

[Chasingmytail]

https://www.openphilanthropy.org/fo...jj2qaPQWbNFqHmCiLKcB-K141zCND3DLge_4FkljtFnfs

The Guardian news paper received £721,500 from the USA Open Philanthropy Project in 20017 for 2 years coverage of farms. Enough said

 

[Martin Holden]

BBC news just now. Once again telling us how un environmentally friendly a “filthy” burger is compared to vegan and other options! Amazing how folk target food production and completely ignore air travel and transport in general. Just think of the extra delivery vehicles on the road now due to internet shopping. The world has gone mad and common sense has disappeared into the middle distance. Perhaps a food shortage may bring folk to their senses??

 

[nails]

BBC news just now. Once again telling us how un environmentally friendly a “filthy” burger is compared to vegan and other options! Amazing how folk target food production and completely ignore air travel and transport in general. Just think of the extra delivery vehicles on the road now due to internet shopping. The world has gone mad and common sense has disappeared into the middle distance. Perhaps a good shortage may bring folk to their senses??

I just saw that article and it is a bloody disgrace. How can that journalist make statements like that.? Their job is to report news and events not put a bias on it.

 

[Martin Holden]

I just saw that article and it is a bloody disgrace. How can that journalist make statements like that.? Their job is to report news and events not put a bias on it.

Yes she was completely not un biased and used language that was far from balanced.

 

[Steevo]

BBC news just now. Once again telling us how un environmentally friendly a “filthy” burger is compared to vegan and other options! Amazing how folk target food production and completely ignore air travel and transport in general. Just think of the extra delivery vehicles on the road now due to internet shopping. The world has gone mad and common sense has disappeared into the middle distance. Perhaps a food shortage may bring folk to their senses??

It could be argued those delivery vehicles more environmentally friendly doing 10 drops in a journey compared to 10 households each driving their car to the supermarket and back.

A better argument might be Deliveroo and JustEat delivering (just!) a burger direct to your house from the depot!

 

[Tarw Coch]

It could be argued those delivery vehicles more environmentally friendly doing 10 drops in a journey compared to 10 households each driving their car to the supermarket and back.

A better argument might be Deliveroo and JustEat delivering (just!) a burger direct to your house from the depot!

Not necessarily, I know at least one supermarkets home delivery to this area comes from approx 50 miles away yet there’s quite a few supermarkets and many more local shops in towns much closer.
Home delivery doesn’t necessarily come from the nearest supermarket.

 

[Paddington]

It's cheaper for us to pay for a Tesco delivery from Wales than to drive a round trip of 25 miles to the nearest supermarket.

 

[SteveHants]

The thing that annoyed me about the shearing piece with Gareth Wyn Jones & the Vegan was the title: ‘When the ethical vegan met a sheep farmer’.

Why was the vegan ‘ethical’?

Was the sheep farmer not?

Shearing sheep is an ethical act done for welfare.
Being a vegan is trying to pretend you’re not part of creation and all the ecosystems that go with it.

"Ethical" vegan refers to a type of vegan. They are vegan for ethical (not environmental) reasons.

Anyone who thinks that vegans are a United, political front should actually try talking to some.

It's like the "People's Front of Judea" sketch in Life of Brian.
There are vegans who think you aren't a "proper" vegan unless you are an activist, environmental vegans (who may use some animal based things because of the environmental impact of the alternative), ethical vegans (who think using animals in any sense is morally wrong), raw vegans etc etc.

Most vegans I've met are vegan because they can't stomach the idea of killing, but are not activists. Some are even happy to have romantic relationships with us meat eaters...

 

[Martin Holden]

It could be argued those delivery vehicles more environmentally friendly doing 10 drops in a journey compared to 10 households each driving their car to the supermarket and back.

A better argument might be Deliveroo and JustEat delivering (just!) a burger direct to your house from the depot!

Fair point but home deliveries hasn’t really reduced domestic travel as far as I can tell

 

[primmiemoo]

I just saw that article and it is a bloody disgrace. How can that journalist make statements like that.? Their job is to report news and events not put a bias on it.

Yes she was completely not un biased and used language that was far from balanced.

If you haven't already, put a complaint in to the BBC. Staff promoting an anti-meat agenda need to be pulled up sharp.

 

[Chae1]

My wifes a primary school teacher P1. There's a local woman who's quite prominent on vegan issues and her sons in her class.

Anyway there's boxes in the class for children to play with, one was full of a chocolate based cereal. Guess which child she found hiding under table stuffing his face, despite them all being warned!

 

[n.w]

"Ethical" vegan refers to a type of vegan. They are vegan for ethical (not environmental) reasons.

Anyone who thinks that vegans are a United, political front should actually try talking to some.

It's like the "People's Front of Judea" sketch in Life of Brian.
There are vegans who think you aren't a "proper" vegan unless you are an activist, environmental vegans (who may use some animal based things because of the environmental impact of the alternative), ethical vegans (who think using animals in any sense is morally wrong), raw vegans etc etc.

Most vegans I've met are vegan because they can't stomach the idea of killing, but are not activists. Some are even happy to have romantic relationships with us meat eaters...

And have meat delivered in a different way..