The BBC: "Vegans are Thick"

[honeyend]

My daughter is a vegan two A* and an A at a levels very good university place. My wife is a vegetarian and she worked as a Vet for 25 years and now does my agronomy. Me I love meat I drive a tractor.

I think its limping nutrition, your daughter has developed despite of having poor nutrition.
I did not eat meat for over 30+ years, but my children did. In studies done with already malnourished children, you would not deliberately make a control group of malnourished children, the improvement in developement is considerable when given animal protein. There are plenty of studies available that show this.

 

[steveR]

I know I've never met a vegan with a sense of humour!

Met "my" first Vegan about 25 years ago at a family BBQ.

My bro was going out with said female and he had "turned" vegan to get in her knickers.... Not sure how he fared, but she was a humourless pinched young woman.

What we all found hilarious, was that my Bro succumbed to the lure of meat once more, tempted by Mum's famous pate (which was in fact an astonishingly delicious meat loaf/pate) and his fair Vegan damsel was never seen after that weekend again....

Would this be classed as a "lure of the flesh...."?

 

[Turkish_FR]

I think its limping nutrition, your daughter has developed despite of having poor nutrition.
I did not eat meat for over 30+ years, but my children did. In studies done with already malnourished children, you would not deliberately make a control group of malnourished children, the improvement in developement is considerable when given animal protein. There are plenty of studies available that show this.

I am witnessing such a study-like life experience. There is a friend in my neighborhood and his father runs a butcher shop. The father and mother are moderately tall persons but my friend and his big brother are about 2 meters tall. They are not doing any sports they just eat meat all day long since childhood, maybe since babyhood.

 

[bovrill]

Something fishy going on with this article... try getting to it from bbc.co.uk, I don't think you can. Almost like it has been hidden. Look at the web address, it's actually bbc.com, people in the UK don't use this site.
Perhaps they've written it so they can argue their reporting is balanced, but most people will never see it

This bit's at the bottom of the page:

Read what you like into it!

 

[Turkish_FR]

I could just about manage to be a vegetarian but the idea of veganism defeats me. However I make my living growing veg so I have all bases covered. You can eat them on their own or in a cheesy sauce or alternatively add meat and gravy.

Do a study on yourself. Try to add vegs to your meat for a while, then try to add meat to your vegs for a while. Compare how you feel in both situations, give blood samples to compare the values. Keep going with the better one.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Something fishy going on with this article... try getting to it from bbc.co.uk, I don't think you can. Almost like it has been hidden. Look at the web address, it's actually bbc.com, people in the UK don't use this site.
Perhaps they've written it so they can argue their reporting is balanced, but most people will never see it

That was my first thought too; a bit like me writing out my resignation but not giving it to myself in case the boss loses his mind and makes me do all the sh!t jobs

 

[An Gof]

One sparrow doesn’t make a spring

You may be a little confused about your quotation there
I reckon you have your birds and seasons mixed up must be all this climate change malarkey

 

[Ted M]

Something fishy going on with this article... try getting to it from bbc.co.uk, I don't think you can. Almost like it has been hidden. Look at the web address, it's actually bbc.com, people in the UK don't use this site.
Perhaps they've written it so they can argue their reporting is balanced, but most people will never see it

Yes, I've thought this before. Like when they did their meat programme, edited the grazing livestock bit out and hid it on the internet where most wouldn't look

 

[steveR]

this is news ?

It is for the dear old Beeb!!!

 

[Lowland1]

I think its limping nutrition, your daughter has developed despite of having poor nutrition.
I did not eat meat for over 30+ years, but my children did. In studies done with already malnourished children, you would not deliberately make a control group of malnourished children, the improvement in developement is considerable when given animal protein. There are plenty of studies available that show this.

I agree. My daughter did not stop eating meat until recently and mainly because the food at her school was very bad but the vegetarian option was better. Veganism is extreme and we are not paticularly happy about it but believe it is something she will grow out of. Spending a lot of time in Africa where the diet is mainly plant based you can see there is definate need for more animal protein in diets. Interestingly I know a lot of Indians( people of Indian origin) who generally are Vegetarians but are very unhealthy due to everything being cooked in ghee and oil and a lot of the younger ones have a real enjoyment for eating meat.
I think farmers are giving Vegans far too much attention we really should be saying.
'We respect your rights to eat what you want and if you don't respect us well that's up to you we will continue to produce good food in an environmentally sustainable way'
There have always been the extremists but usually they grow up and join society in the end.

 

[oil barron]

I am witnessing such a study-like life experience. There is a friend in my neighborhood and his father runs a butcher shop. The father and mother are moderately tall persons but my friend and his big brother are about 2 meters tall. They are not doing any sports they just eat meat all day long since childhood, maybe since babyhood.

“Fit as a butchers dog”

 

[MiJ]

My daughter is a vegan two A* and an A at a levels very good university place. My wife is a vegetarian and she worked as a Vet for 25 years and now does my agronomy. Me I love meat I drive a tractor.

Catches up as people age. Eyes and heart need taurine. Making our own declines with age.

 

[egbert]

One sparrow doesn’t make a spring

but 2 pints makes cavort!

 

[egbert]

Met "my" first Vegan about 25 years ago at a family BBQ.

My bro was going out with said female and he had "turned" vegan to get in her knickers.... Not sure how he fared, but she was a humourless pinched young woman.

What we all found hilarious, was that my Bro succumbed to the lure of meat once more, tempted by Mum's famous pate (which was in fact an astonishingly delicious meat loaf/pate) and his fair Vegan damsel was never seen after that weekend again....

Would this be classed as a "lure of the flesh...."?

i met one socially when we were both in our mids 20's, and asked when she went vegan.
'When I was 14' came the reply.
I can't recall if I was crass enough to point out, but she looked very much like..............a girl of 14, (only with a sallow skin and gaunt face)

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Is veganism actually "an addiction"?

@egbert usually writes posts that make me think......
...and the above makes me wonder if dietary obsessions/disorders are really much different to having a coke/methamphetamine/opioid problem?

It starts as a choice and can end up being a life

 

[dowcow]

I've heard from a few ex-vegans that they abandoned veganism as it was making them ill. Some go back to being vegetarian, others consume meat in various quantities. If you are going to make a success of a vegan diet it takes some skill and planning. Most people just don't have the time for that and so the simplest way to get a healthy diet is just to eat everything in moderation. There are a lot of overfed westerners who could probably stand to lose a few pounds by going vegan for a year or two, but most look like they are dying if they stick longer than that, and if you start off thin you aren't even going to go that far.

I feel for an old friend who's ex wife had turned vegan and was feeding their daughter a vegan diet. He was worried his kid wasn't growing, and would make every effort to encourage her to eat meat and dairy when he was looking after her, but his ex-wife was slowly brainwashing her into refusing. Another friend said he once heard the kid say "I want some cheese but I'm not allowed it." 20 years ago nearly, but set me up with a lifelong opinion that vegans are pricks.

 

[primmiemoo]

On Jeremy Vines “what makes us human” slot a few weeks ago, Professor Robert Winston began his essay saying that Homo sapiens came about when our predecessors began eating meat. This aided the development of the brain into what we have now.
If you look closely, many vegans have surprisingly small heads!

Steady now. There might be accusations of vegnaphobia, next, even though it's only a dietary and commercialised lifestyle choice!

Thank deities that this new form of veganism isn't remotely about religious belief or race.

 

[Inky]

At it's simplest form food is fuel, when it becomes your identity it creates distortions in your personality. That attachment to constant emotional response is draining of energy, you burn out quickly.

I've met very few extreme vegans / vegetarians, the majority are normal people not trying to push their beliefs on others but they've always made me aware of their food choices. i have a few that are volunteers that help me with the cattle, including jobs like dehorning.

 

[egbert]

Is veganism actually "an addiction"?

@egbert usually writes posts that make me think......
...and the above makes me wonder if dietary obsessions/disorders are really much different to having a coke/methamphetamine/opioid problem?

It starts as a choice and can end up being a life

certainly seems to be a high % of vegans who become fixated, and hectoring, about their diet and lifestyle.

It could be something in the nature of those drawn to it in the first place, but I've little doubt that it'll become clear that it's an effect dreckly.

 

[Bob the beef]

How do tell if someone is vegan?

You don't............they tell you



Met a fella in a hotel bar on holiday recently, introduced himself as John, and then Said I'm vegan.....Nice to meet you you says I, I'm Bob and I'm a sheep and cattle farmer who produces lovely beef and lamb . He picked up his fizzy water and walked away. No pleasing some folk. True story