THE BRITISH ARMY ALWAYS COMES TO THE RESCUE?

Respect for all the armed forces and what they do for us but I can't work out why they are not called upon more readily to help in national situations. Waste of a lot of skill imo and a good opportunity for experience.
Unfortunately, there's nowhere near enough of them as it is to fulfill the Government's stated foreign policy objectives. Never mind if they were to start viewing them as a pool of cheap labour that could be used to solve problems as they crop up, rather than actually spending the money on the right people for the job.

Call me cynical, but if we were to start routinely deploying troops to drive ambulances, I think we'd pretty quickly see money being diverted out of the ambulance service to pay for something more politically expedient within the NHS. Likewise, if they're going to start driving fuel tankers for private soldier wages, where's the incentive for fuel companies to up their own wages to pull people in? If the Governement is going to deploy them as a short term measure, fine, but make the fuel companies pay £75k per driver so that they'd rather bring new drivers in than rely on Government help.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
And it's time all this ADR sh!te and other guff was kicked into touch. It's a bigger threat to this country than Brexit/ corvid combined.
Civil servants adding requirements to everything, tying the country up in red tape, rather than everyone just doing their job properly, everyone seems to do a crap job, but has either done a course to qualify them to do it, or has a mass of written risk assessments/method statements/COSHH assessments/Hazard data sheets etc and as long as they are following procedures, it does not matter how bad a job they do!
 

quattro

Member
Location
scotland
Civil servants adding requirements to everything, tying the country up in red tape, rather than everyone just doing their job properly, everyone seems to do a crap job, but has either done a course to qualify them to do it, or has a mass of written risk assessments/method statements/COSHH assessments/Hazard data sheets etc and as long as they are following procedures, it does not matter how bad a job they do!
There’s more people to train people,why not get them doing the job
o yes I forgot all they can do is talk about it
another case of do as I say,not as I do
 

Oldmacdonald

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Scotland
There’s more people to train people,why not get them doing the job
o yes I forgot all they can do is talk about it
another case of do as I say,not as I do

Here's a crazy thought - perhaps they enjoy teaching, and not driving lorrys. ??

Like why we have teachers teaching primary school kids instead of them spending all day just doing times tables to themselves.
 

Ashtree

Member
Any truth that truck loads of squaddies bound for the carrot fields of England, to keep food on the table for their mates, who are out delivering stuff to the folks on benefits, who won’t come out to do the driving and picking that the Europeans used to do, before the Brexiteers told them to fudge to hell back to Europe?
 
And it's time all this ADR sh!te and other guff was kicked into touch. It's a bigger threat to this country than Brexit/ corvid combined.
Absolutely not.
There is around the same amount of fuel or more in a single tanker compared to what was used to bring town the Twin Towers on 9/11.
I would hope only the best, safest and most highly trained are going to be piloting a fuel tanker along the same roads as my family are using, not some brain dead moron who only just scraped through a Hgv licence.
 

quattro

Member
Location
scotland
Absolutely not.
There is around the same amount of fuel or more in a single tanker compared to what was used to bring town the Twin Towers on 9/11.
I would hope only the best, safest and most highly trained are going to be piloting a fuel tanker along the same roads as my family are using, not some brain dead moron who only just scraped through a Hgv licence.
That’s where it’s going to fall down, years ago drivers started off as drivers mates or driving small lorry’s and moving upto artics
you can’t just shove someone through their test and expect same experience as older guys
as another stupid rule, you can drive a curtain sider with 25,000 1litre bottles of petrol but can’t drive a empty fuel tanker unless it’s been properly cleaned
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Absolutely not.
There is around the same amount of fuel or more in a single tanker compared to what was used to bring town the Twin Towers on 9/11.
I would hope only the best, safest and most highly trained are going to be piloting a fuel tanker along the same roads as my family are using, not some brain dead moron who only just scraped through a Hgv licence.
How did we manage before?
 

Boysground

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
Absolutely not.
There is around the same amount of fuel or more in a single tanker compared to what was used to bring town the Twin Towers on 9/11.
I would hope only the best, safest and most highly trained are going to be piloting a fuel tanker along the same roads as my family are using, not some brain dead moron who only just scraped through a Hgv licence.

Had that conversation with the guy picking up my wheat this morning, I was wondering how much training it took to drive a fuel tanker.

Trucker this morning didn’t have enough fuel to last the day.

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