The coming famine

texelburger

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
But we have a world beating buffon at the head of our 'strong and relatively stable government', who thinks all food on the shelves is beamed there by Tescopoly. In other words, it can be sourced from wherever in the world it may be cheaper.

So food is an issue, and a very big one, especially if it isn't there.
And he doesn't care how much Carbon is emitted to get the food here.Politicians are so detached from the real World these days .Worrying times.
 

Hilly

Member
I make and use more compost than I use fym. Less to spread.
Compost is a soil conditioner, feeds bugs and worms etc.
I use fym as a fertilizer and work on a npk ratio of 2,1,3.
Compost is made as an aerobic process and is easily used.
Rotten fym is an anaerobic process and is a lot slower to break down.
So how much compost on grass to make her grow like stink
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
I've improved growth by about 12/15% at 5tonnes an acre in the 1st year. I keep a rate of 3 tonnes applied every year as I've got hungry ground.
If you're thinking of cutting ground go 8/10 tonnes an acre spread the end of Feb. or start of March followed by a pass of a chain harrow just to 1, break up the odd lump and 2 scratch out any dead grass etc.
I'm not organic but I do think a mix is a good thing. Just for reference my cutting ground gets 3/ 4 tonnes of compost and 40 kgs of AN fertilizer, yield is 8/9 135 X 120 bales an acre.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Nonsense? It's no more "nonsense" than the OP pretending to feed 6 or 7 billion mouths with organic farming. It's a vanity project for the middle classes; 1st world consumers with a fat wallet and a guilt complex about their 'carbon footprint' and ag chems, yet when they're at the doctors they forget their principals and demand triazoles, antibiotics or whatever supposedly evil chemistry that suits.
You'll also struggle to find any farmer that doesn't 'work with nature'. As for being reactive with the chequebook, if you were to ask northern arable farmers how this past harvest and sowing went, they'd probably tell you their yields have never been better, their seed beds have never been better, and their bank account has never looked better.
The borlaug hypothesis is rubbish, like your assumption that sids farm wasnt productive before it went organic.
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Stupid question but I presume our government aswell as most others are completely oblivious to what could potentially happen food shortage wise?
It's comes from distribution hubs by magic.

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This shows the level of understanding
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
I make and use more compost than I use fym. Less to spread.
Compost is a soil conditioner, feeds bugs and worms etc.
I use fym as a fertilizer and work on a npk ratio of 2,1,3.
Compost is made as an aerobic process and is easily used.
Rotten fym is an anaerobic process and is a lot slower to break down.
I have some buildings to clean out, that had cattle in last winter (muck/straw), so I think I will try to turn it into compost, will have to look up what I need to do. Would making a windrow in the field, then using the digger to track down next to the windrow and using a grading bucket move the windrow to the other side of the digger be the easiest way of doing it? Should I cover the windrows?
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
It's comes from distribution hubs by magic.

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This shows the level of understanding
These comments show, why need a greater diversity of MPs in Parliament, however it appears that she went to Oxford Poly and had a job as an accountant, so wasn't a Oxbridge PPE then special advisor route, but still, I think we need more politicians who have worked in a job where you paid by the hour.
 

Hilly

Member
These comments show, why need a greater diversity of MPs in Parliament, however it appears that she went to Oxford Poly and had a job as an accountant, so wasn't a Oxbridge PPE then special advisor route, but still, I think we need more politicians who have worked in a job where you paid by the hour.
I think it should be illegal to be a career politician .
 

ARW

Member
Location
Yorkshire
Conspiracy warning.....

I have an inkling most of these troubles are manufactured, no idea who by or what for but a lot of it appears to be China vs the western world.

I don't think strong and relatively stable governments around the world will allow food to become an issue
The Russians control social media with millions of fake accounts to push agendas
A Russian who left the KGB in the 80’s told the Americans about this even before the internet was a thing
They plan on breaking our current political system through influencing the stupid masses to break the current system then swoop in and take over as the chaos starts
Woke culture is evidence alone
 

le bon paysan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
I have some buildings to clean out, that had cattle in last winter (muck/straw), so I think I will try to turn it into compost, will have to look up what I need to do. Would making a windrow in the field, then using the digger to track down next to the windrow and using a grading bucket move the windrow to the other side of the digger be the easiest way of doing it? Should I cover the windrows?
Is the muck moist? If yes then make the midden. Digger will work well. I use the tractor and loader now but have used a bobcat, drive in 1 end and do a 180 degree turn and drop. Covering is good in a very wet situation.
 

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