The coming famine

toquark

Member
To be honest I can't see anything changing in our favour without some shortages. Politicians will turn on a sixpence the minute they sense the public mood changing and the need for some degree of food security becomes obvious to the man on the street.

There is a lot of noise about green stuff just now as Boris tries to placate his mrs lead from the front ahead of COP26 but the climate change agenda will be put on the back burner as soon as more pressing matters arise and there are very many more pressing matters. It's a luxury problem.
 

lloyd

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Location
Herefordshire
With fertiliser doubled in price, and possibly unavailable worldwide in 2022 due to factory closures, it doesnt bode well for harvest 2022
Add in the senseless tree planting on arable land and clearance of hill sheep for trees, the loss of pigs to landfill, we could be facing a major shortage of foodstuffs💀 twelve months from now.☠️☠️
Good time to be a landlord then .
Rents will rocket.🚀
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
So instead of a complete carpet of nature and farming hand in hand it's all been compartmentalised. It's either nature or farming no compromise.

Less biodiversity, less hedges, less trees.

This farm is more productive than when we were using fertiliser.
Everyday is a school day!

What works for you, works for you. But if your farm wasn't productive under 'intensive agriculture' then it probably should be organic, or 'left to nature' as per the Borlaug Hypothesis of concentrating production on as small an area as possible, and minimising the global area damaged by agriculture. .
 
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So instead of a complete carpet of nature and farming hand in hand it's all been compartmentalised. It's either nature or farming no compromise.

Less biodiversity, less hedges, less trees.

This farm is more productive than when we were using fertiliser.
Everyday is a school day

no nitrogen with enough livestock can probably work with nitrogen fixing crops

clover based grasland was the norm before the 1940s but it takes a few year to establish the right sward
 
Just mentioned on the 1 pm news that Afghanistan is in crisis and people are on the point of starvation.
Sell their guns and buy bread...simple.
The UN are asking for £220 million a month to feed them.
 
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Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
Recently had a letter from Defra re:

Notice under Regulation 5(3)(b) of the nitrate Pollution Prevention Regulations 2015, as amended
Regarding NVZ’s

WTF! Looks like the Gas companies might have saved them their posting and printing costs!

Not only is it that due to sheer drop in quantities available are we all going to have to lower our N rates, but this will have a huge knock on effect to the amount of fungicides needed and used on our crops.
Not forgetting the amount of slices of toast we eat!

Spread your marmalade thicker!
 

onesiedale

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
Remember hearing a farmer/ aid worker years ago, as he put it "No-one ever starved with a dollar in their hand". For the developing world, lifting people out of poverty is the key. For us in the west, if we have to spend more of that dollar on food, then probably a good thing.
Trouble is, the dollar in many people's hands in the west is often being handed to them by the state or even worse the banks
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
What works for you, works for you. But if your farm wasn't productive under 'intensive agriculture' then it probably should be organic, or 'left to nature' as per the Borlaug Hypothesis of concentrating production on as small an area as possible, and minimising the global area damaged by agriculture. .
It means my soil is in better health and I am working with nature rather than battling it daily.

I have learnt how to be proactive rather than reactive with the cheque book!
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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