The Cross slot vs 750a trial

Location
Cambridge
Er, how many times have I said providing you get the plant count you need/happy with then all drills/crops are as capable as each other? I'm rejecting the idea that some drills are inherently give better yields than others and I don't think they do, providing you've got enough plants.
So as long as the drill does what it's supposed to, it will be fine?

That's what we are testing, what the drill does, and how well it does it.

The choice is not some plants vs no plants.
 
If you lot are short of work I've got a few km of mesh fencing that needs doing.

Before that we'd need to have a debate about the merits of different types of mesh fencing and whether the type of fencing will affect the end result. Once that had finished whatever needed to be fenced in would probably have escaped and so the job would no longer be necessary.
 

Andrew K

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Essex
No, I still think drills do have a yield effect. I think you're being purposely obtuse on this point. Obviously when that Weaving GD was working at Simon C's it would have had a yield effect - it wouldn't have been able to get the seed in the ground. Yes, you could have got round the problem by not drilling a small seed or cultivating, but that's not the point. It's about the tail not wagging the dog as @dug said. You can accept fitting the system around the drill to an extent so that the drill works acceptably, but there's a limit. I just want two drills because it means I can do what I want wrt to residue management, rotation, cover crops, fertiliser placement etc. and not be limited by the drill.
Given pre em chemical useage in our area, you would compromise blackgrass control IMO, as I personally would not spray an exposed/shallow seed with little soil cover.There would be implications for crop damage even if germination occurred, forcing post em chem treatment as a safer but less effective choice.
 

RBM

Member
Arable Farmer
I'm painting and decorating thanks. Got planet rock on and avoiding sugar soaping the skirting at the moment (good offers on trade magnolia in Wickes at the moment too)
Can't beat a bit of magnolia Will!! Farm standard house colour! You could debate brands of paint as well!
 
Location
Cambridge
Before that we'd need to have a debate about the merits of different types of mesh fencing and whether the type of fencing will affect the end result. Once that had finished whatever needed to be fenced in would probably have escaped and so the job would no longer be necessary.
As long as the fence works as intended then there's no difference between types :rolleyes:
 

Daniel

Member
Rightly or wrongly we've got for a tallish mesh, electric along the top and the bottom dug in via the maximum tillage option of a kubota digger, time will tell if it increases or decreases fantastic Mr Fox's yield....

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Daniel

Member
I'm painting and decorating thanks. Got planet rock on and avoiding sugar soaping the skirting at the moment (good offers on trade magnolia in Wickes at the moment too)

I do have the lounge to fill, sand and repaint in the coming weeks, avoiding that will probably drive me to some quite incredible insights on the whole method of establishing crops. Maybe you could feed the wheat seed to sheep in the mornings, let them graze cover crops in the afternoons and the resultant wheat laden droppings will yield 18t/ha, after all it's no-till and fert down the spout...

Or I may just rehash the 32 pages of stuff here.
 

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