The Demo Thread

Romeogolf

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Arable Farmer
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Wiltshire
What's your normal choice of brand ?

I've put 1200hrs on mine now and still miss the JD's for some jobs
Have run new Holland’s in the past, then more recently Claas on account of having such a good local dealer.
I mowed the last of my silage last night with the fastrac, and raked it up this morning. Took my current Claas to bale it to see the comparison, and the difference was night and day. For someone who values operator comfort and cabin space the fastrac is surely top trump over conventional tractors.

I wanted a demo of a 215r but, after telling me how hard it was to sell tractors these days, the local dealer failed to ring me back when he promised, and the expected demo did not materialise weeks after it was scheduled to arrive. Jcb dealer is making all the right noises so far.
 

KB6930

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Borders
Have run new Holland’s in the past, then more recently Claas on account of having such a good local dealer.
I mowed the last of my silage last night with the fastrac, and raked it up this morning. Took my current Claas to bale it to see the comparison, and the difference was night and day. For someone who values operator comfort and cabin space the fastrac is surely top trump over conventional tractors.

I wanted a demo of a 215r but, after telling me how hard it was to sell tractors these days, the local dealer failed to ring me back when he promised, and the expected demo did not materialise weeks after it was scheduled to arrive. Jcb dealer is making all the right noises so far.
That's pretty bad especially not to even ring and say it's not available for whatever reason!!.

JCB is very comfy to drive but just isn't nearly as user friendly as autopower and not as many adjustments/restrictions can be made to get the best out of it on the automatic side of things .

It's been reliable so far but only 1200hrs in since feb .
 

Speedstar

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Fendt tranny is the biggest let down for me . It gives up long before the engine same as a 700 series fendt does.


I tried them as much as I could on demo and was always impressed but this one is just lacking the grunt of the JD.
How do you mean it gives up ?, As we had a JD6155R on demo a few weeks ago & it along side the Fendt 720 carting wholecrop both with the same trailers the the 720 was 1 km faster up the hill they were carting up on the road , on paper both about the same hp with boost on road work
 

Jim75

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Easter ross
Have run new Holland’s in the past, then more recently Claas on account of having such a good local dealer.
I mowed the last of my silage last night with the fastrac, and raked it up this morning. Took my current Claas to bale it to see the comparison, and the difference was night and day. For someone who values operator comfort and cabin space the fastrac is surely top trump over conventional tractors.

I wanted a demo of a 215r but, after telling me how hard it was to sell tractors these days, the local dealer failed to ring me back when he promised, and the expected demo did not materialise weeks after it was scheduled to arrive. Jcb dealer is making all the right noises so far.

is that a 4220 or a smaller one. Curious how you find it with the loader and visibility out the front?
 

Romeogolf

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Wiltshire
is that a 4220 or a smaller one. Curious how you find it with the loader and visibility out the front?
It’s a 4220, the cumbersome loader makes it look strange. The visibility is awful with the loader, almost dangerous in my opinion. For hauling straw it would be a dream, but I certainly won’t be speccing a loader on mine!
 

KB6930

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Borders
How do you mean it gives up ?, As we had a JD6155R on demo a few weeks ago & it along side the Fendt 720 carting wholecrop both with the same trailers the the 720 was 1 km faster up the hill they were carting up on the road , on paper both about the same hp with boost on road work
Ah the mythical boost 🤣

It's impossible to labour the engine with jcb or fendt the engine is revving away fine but transmission just slows forward speed down or just revs engine faster so lose wheel grip .

I was playing with it today restricting the engine revs to gain grip but it just can't maintain speed where you do that with JD it works away fine

On several occasions pulling trailer's I've failed to get up hills in high range where the JD's just keep on going
 

Speedstar

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Ah the mythical boost 🤣

It's impossible to labour the engine with jcb or fendt the engine is revving away fine but transmission just slows forward speed down or just revs engine faster so lose wheel grip .

I was playing with it today restricting the engine revs to gain grip but it just can't maintain speed where you do that with JD it works away fine

On several occasions pulling trailer's I've failed to get up hills in high range where the JD's just keep on going
We find in TMS it works great , better in the Fendt than in the MF with the same gearbox I think the software id very different on them, never had the JD on a job were it need wheel grip but I do know the vario in the Fendts have more wheel grip than the Dyna 6 Mf tractors used to have
 

KB6930

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We find in TMS it works great , better in the Fendt than in the MF with the same gearbox I think the software id very different on them, never had the JD on a job were it need wheel grip but I do know the vario in the Fendts have more wheel grip than the Dyna 6 Mf tractors used to have
I've tried plough and sumo on demo fendt over the years and just found them numb.

Biggest issue I'm having is jcb is it only works on auto at a set speed so as soon as you touch the joystick to slow down a wee bit it reverts back to manual. JD is fully automated whatever you do with speed. What's the tms like on fendt
 

Speedstar

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I've tried plough and sumo on demo fendt over the years and just found them numb.

Biggest issue I'm having is jcb is it only works on auto at a set speed so as soon as you touch the joystick to slow down a wee bit it reverts back to manual. JD is fully automated whatever you do with speed. What's the tms like on fendt
TMS is very good , when spreading slurry you some times need a lot of wheel grip & it works well, can not comment on the JD as I have never driven one doing that job, On Demo JCB fastracs we found them gutless for the 220hp they are, so far the Deere is very close to the Fendt but it is in front of the Fendt on price & not sure about the warranty or the second hand value on the Deere
 

Richard Smyth

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Arable Farmer
Find the opposite here between jd and Fendt. Comparing a 8270r and 927 Fendt the Fendt always out performs the Deere on heavy pto and lugging a subsoiler.

older jd 7720/30 the software is pathetic in ivt models. To get maximum power they had to be run with the transmission in manual. Just revs and no movement with trans in auto mode.
 

KB6930

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TMS is very good , when spreading slurry you some times need a lot of wheel grip & it works well, can not comment on the JD as I have never driven one doing that job, On Demo JCB fastracs we found them gutless for the 220hp they are, so far the Deere is very close to the Fendt but it is in front of the Fendt on price & not sure about the warranty or the second hand value on the Deere
I'd agree with the gutless comment but again it doesn't feel like it's the engine as it's revving enough to pull it's the transmission holding it back
Find the opposite here between jd and Fendt. Comparing a 8270r and 927 Fendt the Fendt always out performs the Deere on heavy pto and lugging a subsoiler.

older jd 7720/30 the software is pathetic in ivt models. To get maximum power they had to be run with the transmission in manual. Just revs and no movement with trans in auto mode.
Our 7930 just set a max revs through the screen on the dash push hand throttle to max in full auto and it performs very well.

Local lad with 828 fendt will openly admit the 7R JD out performed it on demo but wanted a fendt so got 1 each to they're own I suppose.

I'm the opposite way whatever heys the job done quickest wins with me
 

Richard Smyth

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I'd agree with the gutless comment but again it doesn't feel like it's the engine as it's revving enough to pull it's the transmission holding it back

Our 7930 just set a max revs through the screen on the dash push hand throttle to max in full auto and it performs very well.

Local lad with 828 fendt will openly admit the 7R JD out performed it on demo but wanted a fendt so got 1 each to they're own I suppose.

I'm the opposite way whatever heys the job done quickest wins with me
Where I noticed it most was 7720/30 harvesting spuds. Engine revs around 1500 and they are useless. On hills 1.2 kmh in auto. Manual get at least another 1 kmh.

same here I want the job done quick and the 927 is quicker than the 8270r. Draft control much better on the Fendt too but that’s another discussion.
 

Speedstar

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I'd agree with the gutless comment but again it doesn't feel like it's the engine as it's revving enough to pull it's the transmission holding it back

Our 7930 just set a max revs through the screen on the dash push hand throttle to max in full auto and it performs very well.

Local lad with 828 fendt will openly admit the 7R JD out performed it on demo but wanted a fendt so got 1 each to they're own I suppose.

I'm the opposite way whatever heys the job done quickest wins with me
I know of a 4220 to the North of us remapped to 280+ hp & it pulls very well, but is not with out its problems , word is there is a 280 to 300hp one on its way later in the year
 

Deerefarmer

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USA
I know of a 4220 to the North of us remapped to 280+ hp & it pulls very well, but is not with out its problems , word is there is a 280 to 300hp one on its way later in the year
Rest assured he will be needing a new transmission soon, if he is working at all.

I figure it is due to different software controlling the transmission as it is a weak point on the 4220s.
 

Finn farmer

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I know of a 4220 to the North of us remapped to 280+ hp & it pulls very well, but is not with out its problems , word is there is a 280 to 300hp one on its way later in the year
In my opinion the Fastrac should start from 220hp and go all the way to 300hp or even 320hp. Can't see the 4160 being of much use. :censored:
 

James

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How do you mean it gives up ?, As we had a JD6155R on demo a few weeks ago & it along side the Fendt 720 carting wholecrop both with the same trailers the the 720 was 1 km faster up the hill they were carting up on the road , on paper both about the same hp with boost on road work

How does the 720 compare to the likes of a mf 7618 dyna6 in pulling power
 

CPF

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We’re not quite sure which Jeep to buy for site work . just wanted to know if anyone has any preference on these models which one to choose to keep everyone happy . thanks in advance 👍🏻
 

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