the French

mark perego

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Location
in a river
if they were receiving the prices we are now for our stock there'd be riots, I'm not a fan of alienating the general public though so..

is there any stomach for not selling for a week?
 

johnspeehs

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Location
Co Antrim
if they were receiving the prices we are now for our stock there'd be riots, I'm not a fan of alienating the general public though so..

is there any stomach for not selling for a week?

And that is where we differ from the French,, their public seem to be more aware of where their food comes from and will support farmers, our public are totally disconnected from farming. My wife works in the city and when she started there she had a lot of explaining to ppl how eggs and milk come to be on their tables,, clueless.
 

Man_in_black

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Livestock Farmer
And that is where we differ from the French,, their public seem to be more aware of where their food comes from and will support farmers, our public are totally disconnected from farming. My wife works in the city and when she started there she had a lot of explaining to ppl how eggs and milk come to be on their tables,, clueless.

I'm afraid your right, I've heard my 6 year old daughter educating other kids parents on how their food is reared. The truth is, for a large % if not the majority, they don't want to know for whatever reason.
 

nelly55

Member
Location
Yorkshire
Many years ago I remember 6 of us closing Asda storage centre down for 4 hours on the side of the motorway.All very friendly boy did it cause a backup .Did it do any good Yes because every centre was closed down for a few hours at the same time.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
Many years ago I remember 6 of us closing Asda storage centre down for 4 hours on the side of the motorway.All very friendly boy did it cause a backup .Did it do any good Yes because every centre was closed down for a few hours at the same time.
Like most companies these days Tesco doesn’t store/have over 48hours supply, stop the lorries from their distribution hubs and they’d be caput in days..

Knowing the general public in this country they’d blame the farmers before anyone else so prices wouldn’t rise and we’d be thought less of.
 

Andrew1983

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Black Isle
Like most companies these days Tesco doesn’t store/have over 48hours supply, stop the lorries from their distribution hubs and they’d be caput in days..

Knowing the general public in this country they’d blame the farmers before anyone else so prices wouldn’t rise and we’d be thought less of.

Yes, we seem to have enough bad publicity as it is, the public think we moan all the time about everything anyway..... too wet, too dry, our subs haven’t been paid..... causing disruption to the public isn’t going to do us any good.

Blocking imports coming into country would be an option but I would rather our promotional bodies worked harder to clear the fog of shite that’s stopping customers buying our produce in favour of the cheaper import or vegan option...... They need to do more to explain that paying more means we can afford to spend more on animal welfare, push the fact that we don’t routinely use antibiotics an growth hormones. Push the fact that well grazed grass soaks up more CO2 than trees. The public needs the facts spelt out in black and white...... now picketing the bbc now that would be an idea!
 
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RushesToo

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Location
Fingringhoe
I think there is a case of market manipulation by a few big players Why hasn't this gone to the Competition and Markets Authority [CMA] ?

The CMA's job is to stop this. It doesn't need to be the NFU that does this, individuals, groups of individuals or societies can all set out their case and have this penalised and broken up. The threat alone should cause some change in their behaviour.

It requires someone to set up a conversation with the CMA and ask them to judge if there is a case and they WILL give advice on how to do this properly - it's their job.
 
We need to change the way we sell.
We aren't going to be able to do much about how the supermarkets sell our stuff, but if we had more shops that we ran ourselves, as in high street shops not just farm shops then we would get on better.
Supermarkets brainwash people into buying from them by saying how cheap and convenient it is, we could start selling our stuff using the healthy for you, and healthy for the local economy too argument.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
We need to change the way we sell.
We aren't going to be able to do much about how the supermarkets sell our stuff, but if we had more shops that we ran ourselves, as in high street shops not just farm shops then we would get on better.
Supermarkets brainwash people into buying from them by saying how cheap and convenient it is, we could start selling our stuff using the healthy for you, and healthy for the local economy too argument.

supermarkets do a huge amount of research into 'ideal' packet size, then carefully work out their packet size, which usually means customers need to buy 2!
on farm shops, they seem to be very expensive for average customer
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
We need to change the way we sell.
We aren't going to be able to do much about how the supermarkets sell our stuff, but if we had more shops that we ran ourselves, as in high street shops not just farm shops then we would get on better.
Supermarkets brainwash people into buying from them by saying how cheap and convenient it is, we could start selling our stuff using the healthy for you, and healthy for the local economy too argument.
Got it in one (y)
Red meat in your shop would be marketed as a health food, because it is.
In a supermarket, they make it about price and variety, and so it is cheap and amongst variety

You could lease a shop for less than most people would spend on running their grain drier.... and actually make a difference.

But the grain drier will win because most farmers are just like sheep, with less tendency to poke through a fence, or birth twins. Followers, following followers.
 
Got it in one (y)
Red meat in your shop would be marketed as a health food, because it is.
In a supermarket, they make it about price and variety, and so it is cheap and amongst variety

You could lease a shop for less than most people would spend on running their grain drier.... and actually make a difference.

But the grain drier will win because most farmers are just like sheep, with less tendency to poke through a fence, or birth twins. Followers, following followers.
Unfortunately any shop farmers set up to sell meat would be far more likely to take buisness off the traditional high street butcher than off the supermarkets.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Unfortunately any shop farmers set up to sell meat would be far more likely to take buisness off the traditional high street butcher than off the supermarkets.
That's where the supermarkets are difficult to beat, variety is what gets the majority in the door, price is then secondary to volume.
It's a really difficult model to beat, especially given the amount of misinformation regarding what we eat, and the production of.

However the public is rapidly catching on, quicker than the producers I'd venture? And so if nobody grabs the moment, it will pass. It's a golden time to do something.
 
That's where the supermarkets are difficult to beat, variety is what gets the majority in the door, price is then secondary to volume.
It's a really difficult model to beat, especially given the amount of misinformation regarding what we eat, and the production of.

However the public is rapidly catching on, quicker than the producers I'd venture? And so if nobody grabs the moment, it will pass. It's a golden time to do something.
Convenience is one of the supermarkets strongest points, just about anything and everything you’d need for your weekly shop under one roof, usually located on a site with good road access and a free car park with plenty of parking spaces. They’re also open when traditional town shops are closed be that in the evening for after work shopping or at the weekend, some are even open 24 hours and apparently it’s not uncommon in some cities to see people shopping in pyjamas and slippers................... I have that from a trusted source, a farm girl who now lives/works in a city, almost incomprehensible to a country bumpkin like me but then again, I suppose it would be equally incomprehensible to a lot of city folk that i can take a pee wherever I am at work.:rolleyes:
 

Wooly

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Romney Marsh
Do we not pay a levy for our stock to be advertised well and an extortionate amount to the FA scheme for the privilege of a sticker !!??!

If these 'professional' people are not going to market our produce well then I doubt we will be able to.


I doubt prices would rise or fall if we didn't pay the levies. Comes down to supply and demand and the only way to get a great price is to starve people and create demand !
 

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