The General Election

How will you vote in the forthcoming General Election

  • Conservative

    Votes: 134 55.1%
  • Labour

    Votes: 4 1.6%
  • Brexit

    Votes: 27 11.1%
  • Lib Dem

    Votes: 43 17.7%
  • Green

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • SNP

    Votes: 9 3.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 8 3.3%
  • Won't be voting

    Votes: 16 6.6%

  • Total voters
    243
  • Poll closed .

ISCO

Member
Location
North East
Because they are 100% useless, you would be letting Corbyn in by splitting the vote even more

why ? What’s so bad about boris ?
As someone said above he is a buffoon. Whilst i realise most,if not all, politicians put there own career first I do not like the way he changed sides on Brexit to suit his political career. He just seems to think he can bluster his way through anything with scant regard to rules or the truth.
One thing that rarely gets mentioned and which was the final nail for me was that he voted against TM deal twice and then voted for It when she said she would resign. WHY? It was the same deal, only thing that changed was that her going furthered his career. If it was a good deal for country then he should have supported it first time surely.

I heard Nicky Morgan asked if she thought Boris lied as Camoren said he did in his book. She waffled on about that was 3 years ago, no point going there again, typical politician not addressing the point. If she believed he had not lied then why did she not simply say "No" ?

He simply does not appeal. If Corbyn was not so unpopular Labour would be romping ahead in the polls. Labour needs to look at where Tony Blair positioned the party and they would walk an election with a new leader.
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
I think we need to realise that like him or loathe him, Boris is doing what the people voted for - Leave the EU, which unfortunately for him, means it is not easy getting a deal because of how this country has acted before him

It is not him that is the only issue, it is the fat cats in Europe making this difficult for us by not giving credence to an open debate on a deal.

All the backstabbing, cross party rubbish etc is feeding directly into the EU hands - as they Will fear us leaving due to their uncertain future as one EU, and if Everyone supported Boris at this time instead of their own personal agenda - the EU would know that as a country who believes in itself and will stand up for itself.

Today, we are nothing more than a bunch of bickering children still feeding off the nipple, to which the EU are sitting back and laughing at this implosion.

They see us as cowering under their inferred superiority by not allowing further open negotiations and wanting us to beg to stay, then knowing they once again have us by the balls and their dominance overwhelmed our insecurity.
 

thesilentone

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Very poor showing from the Labour camp so far, I'm not a Labour supporter, but I believe politics is broken and the only way it can work is with strong opposition.

Or does this reflect the limited audience for this forum ?
 

ISCO

Member
Location
North East
I think we need to realise that like him or loathe him, Boris is doing what the people voted for - Leave the EU, which unfortunately for him, means it is not easy getting a deal because of how this country has acted before him

It is not him that is the only issue, it is the fat cats in Europe making this difficult for us by not giving credence to an open debate on a deal.

All the backstabbing, cross party rubbish etc is feeding directly into the EU hands - as they Will fear us leaving due to their uncertain future as one EU, and if Everyone supported Boris at this time instead of their own personal agenda - the EU would know that as a country who believes in itself and will stand up for itself.

Today, we are nothing more than a bunch of bickering children still feeding off the nipple, to which the EU are sitting back and laughing at this implosion.

They see us as cowering under their inferred superiority by not allowing further open negotiations and wanting us to beg to stay, then knowing they once again have us by the balls and their dominance overwhelmed our insecurity.
In the referendum Boris said it would be easy to get a deal. Last week i heard him blustering on that he would go to Brussels and get a deal.
Whilst I voted to remain I am happy to leave however, as said above we should have a deal. The referendum was a close result and i believe to leave with a deal is the only way to proceed to acurately reflect the result. As i heard one MP say last week the referendum was a mandate "to move house but stay within the neighbourhood" which I think is a good way to summarise matters.

The truth of the matter is that we all only voted on our gut feeling. No-one knew the implications of leaving and we still don't. Another referendum would be voted on in a similar manner. We should leave and give it a go it may be best thing that ever happened.
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
In the referendum Boris said it would be easy to get a deal. Last week i heard him blustering on that he would go to Brussels and get a deal.
Whilst I voted to remain I am happy to leave however, as said above we should have a deal. The referendum was a close result and i believe to leave with a deal is the only way to proceed to acurately reflect the result. As i heard one MP say last week the referendum was a mandate "to move house but stay within the neighbourhood" which I think is a good way to summarise matters.

The truth of the matter is that we all only voted on our gut feeling. No-one knew the implications of leaving and we still don't. Another referendum would be voted on in a similar manner. We should leave and give it a go it may be best thing that ever happened.

But they will not deal if they know we are crumbling as we are. They win...

Boris could easily get a deal negotiation if we stopped squabbling and backstabbing.

Oh, and a Leave Vote was sanctioned by the vote outcome no matter how close, therefore we need to accept that and not twist things further.
If we cannot secure a deal due to our childish actions in this country - then it is not Boris's fault - it is the countries fault and we need to accept it and stop trying to blame one person imho.
 

ISCO

Member
Location
North East
Very poor showing from the Labour camp so far, I'm not a Labour supporter, but I believe politics is broken and the only way it can work is with strong opposition.

Or does this reflect the limited audience for this forum ?
Probably the limited audience.

You are correct in that a strong opposition is required.
 
I am amazed that some people will not vote with the stakes as high as they are. I'm hoping that they are ineligible rather than lethargic?

This is by far the most important GE of my lifetime, considering Brexit and the deeply polarised ideologies of the 3 main parties.

I live in a very safe seat, but the risks to my way of life from a party that I don't support managing to form a government far exceed any desire to not turn out and vote.

However, none of the options seem particularly palatable:

Blue - No Deal Brexit
Yellow - No Brexit
Red - Nationalised Agriculture

A coalition government seems most likely if the GE is soon, which would be an equally revolting dog's breakfast.
 

Hilly

Member
As someone said above he is a buffoon. Whilst i realise most,if not all, politicians put there own career first I do not like the way he changed sides on Brexit to suit his political career. He just seems to think he can bluster his way through anything with scant regard to rules or the truth.
One thing that rarely gets mentioned and which was the final nail for me was that he voted against TM deal twice and then voted for It when she said she would resign. WHY? It was the same deal, only thing that changed was that her going furthered his career. If it was a good deal for country then he should have supported it first time surely.

I heard Nicky Morgan asked if she thought Boris lied as Camoren said he did in his book. She waffled on about that was 3 years ago, no point going there again, typical politician not addressing the point. If she believed he had not lied then why did she not simply say "No" ?

He simply does not appeal. If Corbyn was not so unpopular Labour would be romping ahead in the polls. Labour needs to look at where Tony Blair positioned the party and they would walk an election with a new leader.
Boris has always been brexit , the rest of your post well if is a big word , Tory brexit patty ate the best of a bad bunch the rest are totally unsuitable .
 

ISCO

Member
Location
North East
Boris has always been brexit , the rest of your post well if is a big word , Tory brexit patty ate the best of a bad bunch the rest are totally unsuitable .
I heard Boris on radio last week, I think it was in a French interview pre the referendum when he clearly said he would vote to remain
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
This is by far the most important GE of my lifetime, considering Brexit and the deeply polarised ideologies of the 3 main parties.

I live in a very safe seat, but the risks to my way of life from a party that I don't support managing to form a government far exceed any desire to not turn out and vote.

However, none of the options seem particularly palatable:

Blue - No Deal Brexit
Yellow - No Brexit
Red - Nationalised Agriculture

A coalition government seems most likely if the GE is soon, which would be an equally revolting dog's breakfast.

It's interesting all parties have rules out an alliance with one another......yet I'm sure after the election many will decide that if it gets them in power an alliance won't be an issue to them at all.
 
I have voted at every GE for the last 40 years but I did so in the full knowledge that I was wasting my vote 'coz my vote is counted in the constituency where Richard Dimbleby is on record as saying there was no need to count the votes - Just weigh them.

Hence I wholeheartedly support any party which will get us nearer Proportional Representation (STV) - The 2010 referendum did what most referenda seem to do, provide an inconsistent answer to a poorly worded question which gave the chance to vote for AV which can be eqyally as devisive as FPTP.
 

ISCO

Member
Location
North East
But they will not deal if they know we are crumbling as we are. They win...

Boris could easily get a deal negotiation if we stopped squabbling and backstabbing.

Oh, and a Leave Vote was sanctioned by the vote outcome no matter how close, therefore we need to accept that and not twist things further.
If we cannot secure a deal due to our childish actions in this country - then it is not Boris's fault - it is the countries fault and we need to accept it and stop trying to blame one person imho.
Simple then . Boris go get a deal.

My view, based on what we here in press, (may well be wrong but is all we have to go off) is that Boris does not want a deal. He is saying we come out 31st no.matter and He will not ask for extension but will not brake the law.
The only way I can reconcile these statements is that he intends making no effort to negotiate in the hope he asks for extension which is refused.
Vote this morning may well have scuppered this idea though as EU has voted to extend deadline if need be.
 

Hilly

Member
I heard Boris on radio last week, I think it was in a French interview pre the referendum when he clearly said he would vote to remain
Maybe vote remain if the Eu reformed which a lot would have , but they won’t reforms do we leave I don’t see what’s so bad about that ? If they had reformed a lot I’d vote to remain if all it was was a trading union.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I have voted at every GE for the last 40 years but I did so in the full knowledge that I was wasting my vote 'coz my vote is counted in the constituency where Richard Dimbleby is on record as saying there was no need to count the votes - Just weigh them.

Hence I wholeheartedly support any party which will get us nearer Proportional Representation (STV) - The 2010 referendum did what most referenda seem to do, provide an inconsistent answer to a poorly worded question which gave the chance to vote for AV which can be eqyally as devisive as FPTP.

I'm curious to know what effect this would have on the outcome. I can see it has potential to change it greatly, but am unsure the net effect.

Do you have an idea/opinion?
 
Boris could easily get a deal negotiation if we stopped squabbling and backstabbing.

In 44 days?

Is this after he walks across the channel?


If Brexit doesn't become a success before the end of this year, Boris will share the blame along with Cameron & May and face the same consequences.
 

SteveHants

Member
Livestock Farmer
All I'm going to say is that I find the analysis of Corbyn's Labour as being "far left" as pretty laughable - their manifesto is to the right of Tory Party manifestos of the 70s.

In any case - BREXIT i snot going to be the main factor behind who gets my vote. I'm far more concerned with foodbanks, homlessness, the NHS etc etc.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 79 42.2%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 65 34.8%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.0%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 7 3.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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