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Pasty

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I should think so too. A lot of farmers went brexit so they could continue to use the stuff on wheat just before it gets made into bread:banghead:
I wouldn't waste it on crops. It tastes so good. Has the EU banned pre-harvest spraying then? I thought they had just 'recommended' and seeing that many EU countries simply ignore actual laws on things like sow stalls for years after they come into effect, I doubt all the money spent on that 'recommendation' was really worthwhile.
 

czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
I wouldn't waste it on crops. It tastes so good. Has the EU banned pre-harvest spraying then? I thought they had just 'recommended' and seeing that many EU countries simply ignore actual laws on things like sow stalls for years after they come into effect, I doubt all the money spent on that 'recommendation' was really worthwhile.


They are still looking at it I believe. You are wrong though, the French farmers are very accepting of the fact that permitted ag chem use is on a steep decline. Even I am beginning to see the light after my previous life in the uk of being chained to a sprayer.

I hope you are correct about them ignoring rules though, I've got a lorry load of ddt from some guy with an Irish accent I'm hoping to use up. Just incase an aphid has survived.
 

Pasty

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Devon
They are still looking at it I believe. You are wrong though, the French farmers are very accepting of the fact that permitted ag chem use is on a steep decline. Even I am beginning to see the light after my previous life in the uk of being chained to a sprayer
That's just France though. In the UK, people have been buying sow stall bacon and ham long, long after the ban was made law. All imported from the EU.

I don't know how the UK will deal with all that stuff. I have to say it is one of my concerns with Brexit, particularly with the current government. However, governments change and there is no written rule that an independent UK government will be more pro chems or whatever than the EU govt. Or less. I do accept that there is an assumption that our current government is aching to get rid of all these silly restrictions on poisons etc. I think that is just ramped up by the NFU and FW etc.

Mr Gove seems to have taken the opposite tact. Whether we can believe him is another matter. There is certainly plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth about 'feeding the starving', which we don't bother doing anyway. I think a recent editorial in the FW took the record for the amount of times you can say 'science based' and 'growing population' in one article.
 

Pasty

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Devon
Yet the Brexiters constantly blame Brussels for all ills :ROFLMAO:
Not sure why that is amusing. What the EU should have done with sow stalls is said that no sow stall farms can sell pork into the market. End of. The law. But they didn't. UK pig farmers spent millions complying while our 'comrades' over the channel didn't bother and that's why most supermarket pizzas have had 'EU' pork in them for the last decade. Because it's cheaper to produce if you just ignore the law and are still allowed to sell your goods.

It's pathetic is what it is. It makes a joke of the whole thing.
 
Not sure why that is amusing. What the EU should have done with sow stalls is said that no sow stall farms can sell pork into the market. End of. The law. But they didn't. UK pig farmers spent millions complying while our 'comrades' over the channel didn't bother and that's why most supermarket pizzas have had 'EU' pork in them for the last decade. Because it's cheaper to produce if you just ignore the law and are still allowed to sell your goods.

It's pathetic is what it is. It makes a joke of the whole thing.

It's amusing because member states have considerable control over what they chose to implement or not, way more than the Brexiters would have you think. We know this due to direct contact with the Commission. It's amusing because precisely due to the Brexit vote, total control is given to the people who are telling porkies.
 

Pasty

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Devon
It's amusing because member states have considerable control over what they chose to implement or not, way more than the Brexiters would have you think. We know this due to direct contact with the Commission. It's amusing because precisely due to the Brexit vote, total control is given to the people who are telling porkies.
Brexit is about accountable government. Something you will never get in the EU.
 

RobFZS

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the tory party are the lib dems, the lib dems are new labour and the labour party are a mix of greens, trots, SWP and old labour
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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