The Guardian and Chris Packham: half cocked, no surprise.

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
From the Guardian link.... 'George Monbiot advocates taking land out of meat production and rewilding it', and they're wittering on about knepp estate. correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't knepp estate struggling to grow (vegan) food before rewilding, and is now growing longhorn beef?
Do you know, I'm not altogether sure they're thinking this through very well.
 

delilah

Member
More divisive BS from Mr Packham, and once again, no comments allowed by 'the Graun' to highlight the gross inaccuracies of his bitterly polarised views:
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ronmental-crises-farmers-citizens-politicians

"We cannot feed our planet’s growing population by destroying its soil. And soil erosion is also fuelling climate change because that earth contains three times more carbon than is in the atmosphere. Soil-destroying chemical farming means there are no insects or skylarks above our fields – and so we’re experiencing this tragic loss of biodiversity."

On this farm organic matter would appear to be rising with every soil analysis, and the RSPB's survey of the northern half of the farm (200 acres) demonstrates a very healthy population of Skylarks and other 'red list' species in arable fields and uncultivated areas in both their 2015 and 2018 surveys. No insecticides applied for god knows how long (despite the agronomist recommending them every year and us sending them back). But thats not the narrative in the media, because it doesn't fit the agenda of those who draw a very large salary from the Graun and the BBC.
The biggest threat to wildlife is the one he's caused himself - I'll wager that Mr Packham could be responsible for the death of more wild birds this year than all the game keepers in the land combined. But the Graun and the BBC put this guy on a pedestal, when they should point out that he is an accidental wildlife criminal, that his blinkered ambition is causing disastrous 'unintended consequences' that he will no doubt blame on 'chemical farming'...
@Guy Smith

Could you invite Mr Packham to visit your farm ? Just a thought. :)(y)
 

Renaultman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
Fixed that for you.

And I hate to say it, but sharing a post amongst 2/3/400 others in the ‘Schoffel set’ on Twitter is not influencing the general public, it’s preaching to the choir, nothing more than confirmation bias for a non target audience.
Someone posted something about wanting to connect with the public, or similar, among other things. The other day. I must admit I truly agree with this. To win the PR war, and I believe this is what we are in, we need to connect with as many people as we can and explain to them that they are being massively ill-informed. I personally have a small but diverse friends list, and a lot of my Farming posts get a bit of light hearted ribbing which I have to be careful not to adversely react to.
The thing is, even if everyone of your friends are singing from the same hymn sheet, there's a good chance that all their friends aren't. So just put the positive info out there, if you're in an ivory tower (not aimed at you at all PSQ) climb out of it connect, converse and educate.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Shared on Facebook, well done @Clive and team :)

Number 2 of 11 realised today - please share far and wide again and remember to use. #thesolution
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renewablejohn

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Location
lancs
Clive, Would you be available as a speaker for the WI conference or could recommend someone who would be a good orator for the industry. May be getting ahead of ourselves but the better half has said that whatever the topic it is normally discussed at the annual conference and getting speakers is normally quite daunting due to the reputation of the WI.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Clive, Would you be available as a speaker for the WI conference or could recommend someone who would be a good orator for the industry. May be getting ahead of ourselves but the better half has said that whatever the topic it is normally discussed at the annual conference and getting speakers is normally quite daunting due to the reputation of the WI.

I’m happy to speak on zerotill in a technical kind of way to farmers and do so quite a lot, but I’m not sure that would go down well with the WI !

If there is cake though .........
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
I’m happy to speak on zerotill in a technical kind of way to farmers and do so quite a lot, but I’m not sure that would go down well with the WI !

If there is cake though .........

Come on Clive you should know better there is always cake at a WI meeting. As for speaking I think it would need to be more environment based whilst dispelling the Vegan movements stance of meat production destroying the environment.
 

honeyend

Member
Just watching a programme about CP, it explains a lot. He basically has no empathy, its part of his condition, so the rest of us have to put up with him and he is never going to see anyone else's point of view. I think its just crazy that someone who has such a distorted view of the world gets so much air time.
 
Whenever he posts something on social media reply with one of the new TFF “Farming is NOT the problem - it’s part of the solution” infographics

Here is number 1 of 11

Use #thesolution

Let’s drown those idiots out with positive messages about our industry

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And now added 2 of 111

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More to follow
@Clive could you pin these to the top of the Agricultural Matters board so we can find them easily once generated?
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Chris Packham : Aspergers and me. On i-player
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09b1zbb/chris-packham-aspergers-and-me

It's a repeat of the programme from 2017. I wonder why the BBC has trotted it out now...

Could it be they're trying to get the public to play the sympathy card after Packham went way off script and caused the death of tens of thousands of wild birds, not to mention promoting the utter destruction caused to ground nesting bees and hedgehogs (and everything in between) by badgers?

If the BBC had the guts and the honesty, they'd portray him less like a flawed saint, and more like Ian Brady.
 

Lofty1984

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09b1zbb/chris-packham-aspergers-and-me

It's a repeat of the programme from 2017. I wonder why the BBC has trotted it out now...

Could it be they're trying to get the public to play the sympathy card after Packham went way off script and caused the death of tens of thousands of wild birds, not to mention promoting the utter destruction caused to ground nesting bees and hedgehogs (and everything in between) by badgers?

If the BBC had the guts and the honesty, they'd portray him less like a flawed saint, and more like Ian Brady.
Can’t do that can they he suits them as he ticks their overly politically correct diversity box :rolleyes:
 

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