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primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
Going back to the OP, it's the diversity of staple foods and varieties within them that's in peril. One virus, bacterium, or fungus could wreak havoc on our food producing abilities where only one type is grown or reared.

We should all of us grow a "heritage" variety of cereal, potato or pulses, and/or keep a rare/minority breed of livestock according to where we are and what our ground will support in order to conserve genetic diversity, and select future proofing traits for new varieties and breeds.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
As already noted, electric cars depend on cobalt mined by exploited children and a lithium supply which is firmly in the hands of a communist totalitarian regime. Hybrids do as well, but they are little more more than a normal car with a big battery. I trust you will be comfortable with your choice.

And fossil powered car are built from fairy wings I guess ?

We have to drive and we have to eat. Both things WILL damage environment, the future is about minimising and / or offsetting that damage if we want the human race occupation of this planet to be sustainable
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
And fossil powered car are built from fairy wings I guess ?

We have to drive and we have to eat. Both things WILL damage environment, the future is about minimising and / or offsetting that damage if we want the human race occupation of this planet to be sustainable

Batteries are not the only fruit when it comes to alternatives to fossil fuels. True, there is a whole industry trying to pretend otherwise, but carbon can be recycled as a fuel, Brazil already does it and so does the EU to a certain extent with ethanol in both diesel and petrol. All we need do is expand that rather than go mindlessly chasing after the hell of battery packs. Broader horizons are called for, but all we have is the conditioned Pavlovian response of dead end batteries whenever 'fossil fuels' are mentioned.
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
Going back to the OP, it's the diversity of staple foods and varieties within them that's in peril. One virus, bacterium, or fungus could wreak havoc on our food producing abilities where only one type is grown or reared.

We should all of us grow a "heritage" variety of cereal, potato or pulses, and/or keep a rare/minority breed of livestock according to where we are and what our ground will support in order to conserve genetic diversity, and select future proofing traits for new varieties and breeds.

Ireland should need no reminder of that sad fact.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
I totally agree. But there is hope, the youth will save us.

There were thousands of school kids protesting for climate-change awareness in London a week ago.

They were slaughtered in the media by various right-wing politicians and commentators

https://twitter.com/JohnFinnemore/status/1096394812159418371

yet for this lot, not a word of condemnation from the likes of Andrea Leadsome et al

https://twitter.com/UnityNewsNet/status/1096818224220594177

but as I said there is hope. One day those kids and millions like them, they're going to be our future politicians and leaders, our future CEOs, our future journalists and media commentators, our future everything

they are coming over the horizon to save us and there's nothing the far-right can do to stop them (unless they can find a way to become immortal :ROFLMAO: )

they will be unstoppable


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Did they turn the lights out before they walked out of the classroom and I bet their mummies drove to pick them up afterwards as they couldnt walk anywhere
 

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