The "I`ve got it" thread...

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
Masks - on public transport, in large venues but will be optional rather than mandatory. 6 months or so.

Testing - will be used to focus on local outbreaks rather than as it is now. What it is doing now is showing the picture across the country. We do "heat maps" down to postcode level so the testing will almost become by street or by tracing contacts. That gets easier as the volume decreases.

The other testing "thing" will be holiday testing for crossing borders to reduce the risk of import/export. Think vaccination status and a negative test to leave and return.

Lots of our local GP`s are setting up Travel testing clinic`s using our labs, easy money for them!
Interesting comment on GPS when I can`t get one to take my blood pressure and fill in a medical form to reapply for my driving licence. I can of course pay a private clinic who employ moonlighting GPs to do this but I have to travel fifty miles rather than a five minute walk to my local surgery.
The ethical standards of GPs has sunk to an all time low.
 

JCMaloney

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Location
LE9 2JG
Interesting comment on GPS when I can`t get one to take my blood pressure and fill in a medical form to reapply for my driving licence. I can of course pay a private clinic who employ moonlighting GPs to do this but I have to travel fifty miles rather than a five minute walk to my local surgery.
The ethical standards of GPs has sunk to an all time low.

Since GP`s gained more control and are incentivised by profit things have certainly changed and not always for the better.

A brief example........

Covid test costs around £30 to do, staff, consumables, estate, kit etc.

We charge private provider (GP) £60. £30 "surplus" per test, this is good we can reinvest in R&I, staff, kit etc as we are doing a lot.

Private provider charges J.Bloggs £120 £60 profit for handing over a bit of paper.

If we increase the price to £90, Joe pays £150........ :rolleyes:
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
People complain about privatisation of the NHS but the front line and first port of call, the GPs are already operating a privatised service. Until recently I have never been refused services by a GP and at the same time being told that I can pay for them privately by travelling over 50 miles to a hotel room for a simple sight test and blood pressure check by an NHS doctor.
I hate to be critical in these difficult times but I refuse to see how this is taking pressure off the NHS. It is simply a cash cow for doctors.
 

Overby

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South West
It took me 2 weeks to get over Covid, the mental bit was worse than the illness. It really plays with your mind, no idea how. Had me questioning my age and mortality constantly (something which never bothers me usually) and every day as soon as opened my eyes there was a sense of impending doom. It was like The FEAR in the aftermath of a 4 day stag do without the enjoyment bit at the start. I can see why it sees off so many oldies, they'll just think "what's the point" and give up. Absolutely horrendous.

Then on Thursday I woke up and as if by magic the world was a nice place again.

Ironically I also got my text to go for the vaccine on Thursday too.
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
A Church of Ireland rector described as one of the church's "most likeable people" has died at the age of 46 with Covid-19.

The Reverend John Anderson, rector of Billy and Derrykeighan in County Antrim, died on Saturday morning after going into intensive care.

He was admitted to Causeway Hospital just over a week ago.

He leaves behind his wife Eleanor and three young children.

The Bishop of Connor, Right Reverend George Davison, says his death had come "as a terrible shock to us all".
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
People complain about privatisation of the NHS but the front line and first port of call, the GPs are already operating a privatised service. Until recently I have never been refused services by a GP and at the same time being told that I can pay for them privately by travelling over 50 miles to a hotel room for a simple sight test and blood pressure check by an NHS doctor.
I hate to be critical in these difficult times but I refuse to see how this is taking pressure off the NHS. It is simply a cash cow for doctors.
My cousin is a nurse practioner in her previous job working in a surgery of six GPs she was told off for prescribing non generic drugs By using generic drugs the GPs were able buy the drugs at a lower price but claim the price of the brand name drugs from the NHS by doing this the surgery made £100,000 extra per year which was divided up by the partners. GPs in my experience not a good bunch.
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
My cousin is a nurse practioner in her previous job working in a surgery of six GPs she was told off for prescribing non generic drugs By using generic drugs the GPs were able buy the drugs at a lower price but claim the price of the brand name drugs from the NHS by doing this the surgery made £100,000 extra per year which was divided up by the partners. GPs in my experience not a good bunch.
Our local practice is carried by nurse practitioners. The doctors are not held in awe as they once were. I spit my teeth out when I have to sign an official document in front of a certain category of "professional" person such as a doctor, lawyer, magistrate etc. .They might just as well classify them under the description of people in whom trust is mis-placed.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
Our local practice is carried by nurse practitioners. The doctors are not held in awe as they once were. I spit my teeth out when I have to sign an official document in front of a certain category of "professional" person such as a doctor, lawyer, magistrate etc. .They might just as well classify them under the description of people in whom trust is mis-placed.
I married into a medical family father and mother in laws surgeons sister in laws doctors and wife is a vet so i know a bit about it now however my experience of other doctors is not good trying to get a GP to see my Dad last year was impossible they just did n’t want to know no matter how much we tried to explain a telephone consultation with someone with dementia wasn’t practical. My aunt couldn’t get a Gp’s appointment for over month at Christmas finally when she did she was immediately referred to a consultant a week later dead of stomach cancer. GPs as i said not a good bunch in my opinion.
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
I married into a medical family father and mother in laws surgeons sister in laws doctors and wife is a vet so i know a bit about it now however my experience of other doctors is not good trying to get a GP to see my Dad last year was impossible they just did n’t want to know no matter how much we tried to explain a telephone consultation with someone with dementia wasn’t practical. My aunt couldn’t get a Gp’s appointment for over month at Christmas finally when she did she was immediately referred to a consultant a week later dead of stomach cancer. GPs as i said not a good bunch in my opinion.
Practices vary in my locality but far more bad than good. I have a retired doctor friend who worked as an industrial doctor for most of his life and he is disgusted by the present situation. You would imagine that being "one of them" he might have an edge but this is not so. He was registered at my local practice but could not get treatment for his very debilitating illness so he managed to move to another practice which was equidistant from his house. Most of my doctor friends from the old school have now passed away but without exception their anger, disgust and frustration was building at the declining ethical standards.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
Practices vary in my locality but far more bad than good. I have a retired doctor friend who worked as an industrial doctor for most of his life and he is disgusted by the present situation. You would imagine that being "one of them" he might have an edge but this is not so. He was registered at my local practice but could not get treatment for his very debilitating illness so he managed to move to another practice which was equidistant from his house. Most of my doctor friends from the old school have now passed away but without exception their anger, disgust and frustration was building at the declining ethical standards.
My wife says it used to be a vocation now it’s a profession. Healing is not as important as making money.
 

JCMaloney

Member
Location
LE9 2JG
Numbers..... all a bit "quiet" at the moment, this is not a bad thing!!
80765 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 80728 (increase 37).
36390 (increase of 28) were within the Leicester City Council area.
44,375 (increase of 9) cases were reported in the County.
UHL reported 0 death's.
Total number of UHL death's stands at 1,455

We knocked through 100k vaccinations at the hubs last week as well.
 
Since GP`s gained more control and are incentivised by profit things have certainly changed and not always for the better.

A brief example........

Covid test costs around £30 to do, staff, consumables, estate, kit etc.

We charge private provider (GP) £60. £30 "surplus" per test, this is good we can reinvest in R&I, staff, kit etc as we are doing a lot.

Private provider charges J.Bloggs £120 £60 profit for handing over a bit of paper.

If we increase the price to £90, Joe pays £150........ :rolleyes:

The whole 'GPs/Doctors should be organising things' concept is mental.

It's like taking all the staff and management from your local BP garage and expecting them to know how to operate an entire collection of TESCO stores correctly. It is madness. I can see how the thinking sort of makes sense- yes, doctors and nurses should be involved in the planning, management and delivery of services but not all such people have the skills, expertise or training to do this. I know two GPs and both of them have admitted to me that neither have had any business or management training whatsoever. Neither truly believe in the CCG thing nor it's replacement because whenever the NHS or government implements these changes, it is the exact same people sitting in the exact same chairs only the table arrangement has been altered. How do you expect radical and drastic changes in performance or procedures in those circumstances? The very nature of the NHS from what I have seen is that people enter it and slide up the organisation in a ladder like fashion, applying for the next band job as time in service accrues because the recruiting pool is necessarily limited- again, there are no endless hordes of candidates with experience applying for these posts.

Not only that, but people with high level clinical skills need to be using their high level clinical skills- such people do not fall off trees nor are they applying to work in the UK by the shipload. A day or two a week teaching others would be good but the rest of the time their skills should be used in the right way- caring for and treating patients. The NHS seems to be very good at taking people away from the front line and sitting them in offices. It makes no sense to me.
 

The Agrarian

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
A Church of Ireland rector described as one of the church's "most likeable people" has died at the age of 46 with Covid-19.

The Reverend John Anderson, rector of Billy and Derrykeighan in County Antrim, died on Saturday morning after going into intensive care.

He was admitted to Causeway Hospital just over a week ago.

He leaves behind his wife Eleanor and three young children.

The Bishop of Connor, Right Reverend George Davison, says his death had come "as a terrible shock to us all".

Yes, a tragedy. Known in North Antrim as a genuine country parson, who had devoted his life to the community since 2005. Had also had his first shot too, but presumably not long enough.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Practices vary in my locality but far more bad than good. I have a retired doctor friend who worked as an industrial doctor for most of his life and he is disgusted by the present situation. You would imagine that being "one of them" he might have an edge but this is not so. He was registered at my local practice but could not get treatment for his very debilitating illness so he managed to move to another practice which was equidistant from his house. Most of my doctor friends from the old school have now passed away but without exception their anger, disgust and frustration was building at the declining ethical standards.


What is an “industrial doctor “?
 
Location
East Mids
Numbers..... all a bit "quiet" at the moment, this is not a bad thing!!
80765 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 80728 (increase 37).
36390 (increase of 28) were within the Leicester City Council area.
44,375 (increase of 9) cases were reported in the County.
UHL reported 0 death's.
Total number of UHL death's stands at 1,455

We knocked through 100k vaccinations at the hubs last week as well.
Coming for my second vaccine this week! :)


I await the 2nd antibody test result with interest. The vet turned up (early) when I was drawing the blood and looked somewhat shocked when I came to the door with blood running down my hand.
(If you thought the last one looked a bit messy....... :cautious:)
When I explained what I was doing, he laughed and said he'd one one too and he got blood absolutely everywhere, it's rather difficult getting it into the tube!
 

JCMaloney

Member
Location
LE9 2JG
Coming for my second vaccine this week! :)


I await the 2nd antibody test result with interest. The vet turned up (early) when I was drawing the blood and looked somewhat shocked when I came to the door with blood running down my hand.
(If you thought the last one looked a bit messy....... :cautious:)
When I explained what I was doing, he laughed and said he'd one one too and he got blood absolutely everywhere, it's rather difficult getting it into the tube!

Most marvellous it`s been busy with a long queue most days, later appointments seem have a shorter wait.
When I toddle down for a mid morning coffee its at it`s peak! Bring refreshments if needed..... staff only in the canteen! :)
 

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