The "I`ve got it" thread...

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
Dear Bob, don't let the Lambda variant spread. :nailbiting:


The article also says that younger people in the USA are being knocked hard by the delta variant. They aren't a healthy generation ~ the same generation in the UK isn't healthy, either ~ but why some people think it's ok for them to die or suffer long covid is beyond me.
 

jendan

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Dear Bob, don't let the Lambda variant spread. :nailbiting:


The article also says that younger people in the USA are being knocked hard by the delta variant. They aren't a healthy generation ~ the same generation in the UK isn't healthy, either ~ but why some people think it's ok for them to die or suffer long covid is beyond me.
Whatever next ? Does it make you dance around on the beach.
 

The Agrarian

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
We know the vaccinated can carry and transmit the disease with far less symptoms so doesn't that mean that those folk could be walking around thinking they are fine while spreading the virus to everyone else? I think I'll buy a pub and insist on proof of non vaccination to protect my customers.

Be serious. Anyone who goes to a pub, unvaccinated, clearly isn't too bothered about catching the virus. Otherwise they would be taking steps to stay out of the same airspace as potential carriers. Vaccination is like wearing a seatbelt. It isn't claimed to be perfect, but it saves lives and reduces poor outcomes. Apart from not getting in a car, it's the single best thing you can do as a passenger in a car in regard to your life and health. You wouldn't suggest that other cars stay off the road, just to make the road safe for non-sealtbelt-wearing road users, would you?


Dear Bob, don't let the Lambda variant spread. :nailbiting:


The article also says that younger people in the USA are being knocked hard by the delta variant. They aren't a healthy generation ~ the same generation in the UK isn't healthy, either ~ but why some people think it's ok for them to die or suffer long covid is beyond me.

Quite right. Lead the horse to water (vaccination), and hope that it drinks voluntarily. If people refuse that medical help, well, who's responsibility is it if they die or suffer long covid?
 

Pasty

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Location
Devon
Be serious. Anyone who goes to a pub, unvaccinated, clearly isn't too bothered about catching the virus. Otherwise they would be taking steps to stay out of the same airspace as potential carriers. Vaccination is like wearing a seatbelt. It isn't claimed to be perfect, but it saves lives and reduces poor outcomes. Apart from not getting in a car, it's the single best thing you can do as a passenger in a car in regard to your life and health. You wouldn't suggest that other cars stay off the road, just to make the road safe for non-sealtbelt-wearing road users, would you?




Quite right. Lead the horse to water (vaccination), and hope that it drinks voluntarily. If people refuse that medical help, well, who's responsibility is it if they die or suffer long covid?
Who's responsibility is it if people get ill or die from the vax? Oh, look, the big pharma firms already got an exemption so you are on your own. Nothing to see here. When I was doing taxi driving for a bit for spare cash I didn't wear a seat belt and of the few times I was catapulted through the windscreen to my death, I was fine.
 

bobk

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Location
stafford
Who's responsibility is it if people get ill or die from the vax? Oh, look, the big pharma firms already got an exemption so you are on your own. Nothing to see here. When I was doing taxi driving for a bit for spare cash I didn't wear a seat belt and of the few times I was catapulted through the windscreen to my death, I was fine.
How did the passengers get on ?
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
The seatbelt thing is a nonsense really. You wear a seatbelt to possibly save you in a 1 in million crash. It's not really an inconvenience and it is law excluding a few drivers. Its hardly the same as an untested medical intervention and pretty much all western states make mandatory medical interventions illegal for good reason. No jab no job will crash and burn.
 

JCMaloney

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Location
LE9 2JG
Almost 86 million jabs (1st & 2nd) have been done/given.

Reactions:
For all COVID-19 vaccines, the overwhelming majority of reports relate to injection-site reactions (sore arm for example) and generalised symptoms such as ‘flu-like’ illness, headache, chills, fatigue (tiredness), nausea (feeling sick), fever, dizziness, weakness, aching muscles, and rapid heartbeat. Generally, these happen shortly after the vaccination and are not associated with more serious or lasting illness.

These types of reactions reflect the normal immune response triggered by the body to the vaccines. They are typically seen with most types of vaccine and tend to resolve within a day or two. The nature of reported suspected side effects is broadly similar across age groups, although, as was seen in clinical trials and as is usually seen with other vaccines, they may be reported more frequently in younger adults.

Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...irus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

The most recent ONS data reports 0 deaths with the cause being directly "the vaccine".
Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...asets/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales
 

The Agrarian

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
You also wear a seatbelt to reduce the impact your slab of meat might have on the other occupants beside or in front of you in the event of a collision.

If we made vaccination the law, would you be happy enough then? In the interest of reducing viral load to protect the general population, a bit like belts and passengers.

What's this risk of dying from the covid vaccination that bothers you? The clot risk? That's an immune response function, and it's present many times higher in covid disease itself.
 
Location
East Mids
By all means leave the unvaccinated to get herd immunity, leave them all to their fate, stop this circus and let's get back to whatever's left of 'normal'.

Anyone with the slightest chance of being seriously ill with Covid will have been vaccinated anyway.
But (and I'm not saying this to argue against relaxation of rules, just pointing out to those who have forgotten or do not realise) a fair number of those who were likely to become seriously ill with Covid do not develop antibodies if they are immunosuppressed (eg receiving cancer treatments, recovering from a transplant, suffering from certain autoimmune diseases). And some of these people look perfectly healthy and are living active lives, not holed up in hospital.
 

tepapa

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Wales
Dear Bob, don't let the Lambda variant spread. :nailbiting:


The article also says that younger people in the USA are being knocked hard by the delta variant. They aren't a healthy generation ~ the same generation in the UK isn't healthy, either ~ but why some people think it's ok for them to die or suffer long covid is beyond me.
The UK could close its borders to stop it's spreading here. I'll await the announcement on the BBC news.
 

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