The "I`ve got it" thread...

[Lowland1]

I think by the time it came to attention in Wuhan it was already fairly widespread in Europe. The mrs has said for some time we were due a pandemic and to be honest thought the same. Human race is getting damned thick on and like livestock the more you cram in the more likely there will be something go through them. It was as you say probably about but no one was really looking for it. Mrs says health authority had another strain of flu on the horizon and expected it to be a problem winter of 19/20.




Sorry for your loss.

There will be a lot of deaths recorded as covid but maybe other under lieing issues were the real cause. I’m sure there are people who died of covid would have died anyway. By that I mean recently covid got into the nursing home managed by my mrs. Sadly 3 residents have died. All three knew they were end of life. They’ve caught covid which has tipped them over the edge. It could so easily have been a cold or flu or an infection or even they were just end of life. I’m afraid it will come to us all and we all hope later rather than sooner.

My wife was close to her sister who was a few years older than her. Mrs was the youngest and lost her parents just as she turned into her teens. Her sis looked after her. Her sis was a nice lass if other she had a bad choice in men! So last year was 66 and just retired from her job. She had a boyfriend but her own house and for once in her life fairly financially secure. She was lean, had no health issues and fit for 66 doing quite a bit of rambling. First April in Saturday she‘d called my mrs and was fine and as we’d been lockdown said to mrs that she’d been for a walk and said she must have got out of condition as she was a little out of breath. Thought no more about it. Tuesday she got up. After maybe a couple of hours she became breathless so much so she could not get upstairs and rang the sleeping boyfriend to come down stairs and help. He rang for an ambulance which arrived fairly quickly but by then she was dead. I was working on another farm and got a call from nursing home to go pick my mrs up as she had had bad news. She was pretty devastated to say the least. Shocked me somewhat I’ll admit.

So eventually a PM was done and coroner said it would be ‘sudden onset pneumonia caused by covid19‘. Coroner said they tested for covid and unless the patient had any other recorded medical issues if they got a posative then they didn’t progress further. That said I was led to believe that if patient tested posative and there was a knife sticking out of his/her back then further investigation would be required! Anyway very shitty for my wife and of course her sis.

It is a horrid virus best avoided. There is no one to blame as disease happens. If you get it just hope you survive - as the majority do. Could the spread have been prevented - I don’t think so. We just have to suck it up and get on. Gov are doing their best under impossible situations. Sir Kia - you would have faired no better if you were in power. I’m sure it’s the last thing Boris wanted. In time we’ll get past it and resume life as normal. Sorry for those that died before their time.

Thank you for a very sensible post. I think there is far too much of a blame game going on. It is a novel virus than little is known about . Too many people presume to be experts on it. Obviously it is pretty devastating if it kills somebody healthy like your sister in law however in my fathers case death from something was not unexpected. I do not blame the Government at all but i do think they are pretending they know what they are doing.

 

[jh.]

I saw on here that some of you watch this chap . 21min ish mark

 

[ricky_rascal]

Thank you for a very sensible post. I think there is far too much of a blame game going on. It is a novel virus than little is known about . Too many people presume to be experts on it. Obviously it is pretty devastating if it kills somebody healthy like your sister in law however in my fathers case death from something was not unexpected. I do not blame the Government at all but i do think they are pretending they know what they are doing.

Thanks.

Gov have to look as they know what that are doing but seem to blunder about somewhat. There are far too many people who won’t take responsibility for their own well being and think it’s the government’s job. Christmas was a case in point. Too many were never going to behave. Watching the crowds out shopping then allowing people Christmas Day to pretty much mix as they like was just what the virus wanted. Worse when you get new variant that seems to be a lot more contagious.

An example. A woman had son and daughter from different cities to hers at Christmas. She also has her mother over. So one of the youngsters has covid and spreads it to them all. Said woman then goes to work unaware she has it at first and spreads it. Meantime her husband has it and takes a turn for the worst and ends up in hospital on oxegen. He’s on the jar on his head pumping O2 and they still can’t get his blood ox up to a satisfactory amount. They decide he needs to go on a respirator but there is a snag and he will not survive on one. So basically he’s been discharged home to die. I’m sorry but this so easily could have been avoided by not mixing at Christmas. As my mrs said ‘was it f’ing worth it?’ I have no sympathy for them because it ended up on my doorstep. We have been careful since outbreak as I’m a one man band and the mrs has responsibility to the care home. I was always worried about spreading it to elderly parents next door. I guess I always knew it was a risk but she had great caring staff. Lot of young lasses that were petrified of carrying covid in the home. My mrs defended her residents and staff like a lioness. More than one or two that thought they had access to the home were sent packing and I don’t mean relatives either. It only takes one..

Of course it can’t be proved and has happened now. It maybe would at some point anyway. I was damned annoyed when both myself and mrs got it what with the death of her sister and of course when you listen to news you can’t help but think it’ll be you next in hospital. Though the hospital and death figures are bad the media do dwell on it somewhat. There are a lot survive it, even really elderly. To be fair apart from the pain my mrs got in her lung post covid, I didn’t think it was that bad. I don’t know how long ago it was but there was swine flu knocking about. We’d been up to Edinburgh and found out afterwards it was at the time a hot spot. Few days after coming home I started with it. I was far worse with that and was that bad the mrs got doctor out to me. Thankfully he refused to put me down

Anyhoo were fine. To an extent I’m relieved I’ve had it and told I should have some immunity to it for a while. Although I mask up and hand sanatize the few times I go anywhere, I’m not as worried as I used to be.

Death has always stalked the human race and always will. We get better at fighting him off. Virus and plague are nothing new. Behave like lemmings and die like them. I care not what anyone’s opinion of lockdown is and I do feel for the business’s ruined by it. People can’t behave and take responsibility for their own well being so gov has to step in. Covid might not kill you but might the person you pass it on too. I’m certain I haven’t passed it on. I’ve not been to the farm I do a few days for, for over 3 weeks. I respect the family that farm it and would be mortified to pass it to them. Take care all...

 

[Boohoo]

I saw on here that some of you watch this chap . 21min ish mark

Usually excellent, informative videos but I didn't like the suggestion from the "guest speaker" that a plant based diet could save us from a future pandemic.

 

[ricky_rascal]

Usually excellent, informative videos but I didn't like the suggestion from the "guest speaker" that a plant based diet could save us from a future pandemic.

Not so - you need plenty of meat with a sprinkling of plants to fortify you to fight it off

 

[Lowland1]

Not so - you need plenty of meat with a sprinkling of plants to fortify you to fight it off

If you look at countries where Covid has hit hardest I think you will find a mix of older and unhealthy people and well you can't stop getting old you can do something about your health. My father worked everyday feeding and cleaning out his pigs well into his 70's so his meat and potato diet was easily metabolized but when he decided to sit back and do less he continued with the same diet but with no exercise it eventually killed him. My wife was diagnosed with cancer in July she has totally changed her diet to a plant based one and walks about 10 kilometres a day and it really seems to be working. Here in Kenya Covid is very rare as we have a younger fitter population who by virtue of being poorer eat little meat (obviously their immune system is better through living in dirt and other things kill people off).
Diet and exercise is incredibly import in protecting your health and unfortunately people don't pay enough attention to it.

 

[ricky_rascal]

If you look at countries where Covid has hit hardest I think you will find a mix of older and unhealthy people and well you can't stop getting old you can do something about your health. My father worked everyday feeding and cleaning out his pigs well into his 70's so his meat and potato diet was easily metabolized but when he decided to sit back and do less he continued with the same diet but with no exercise it eventually killed him. My wife was diagnosed with cancer in July she has totally changed her diet to a plant based one and walks about 10 kilometres a day and it really seems to be working. Here in Kenya Covid is very rare as we have a younger fitter population who by virtue of being poorer eat little meat (obviously their immune system is better through living in dirt and other things kill people off).
Diet and exercise is incredibly import in protecting your health and unfortunately people don't pay enough attention to it.

I hear what you say and my comment was somewhat tongue in cheek! To be fair you are probably bang on. I dropped my mrs at local supermarket and had a couple of errands to do. Got back and parked across from supermarket entrance. The number of people struggling to even walk properly was quite shocking. These were not particularly old people either. I just thought there is no wonder the uk has a high death rate as most of them I watched would struggle to survive covid. I’m sorry to say it but never seen so many sick lame and lazy in all my life. I reckon we have so many over weight inactive people that there is no wonder nhs is under pressure.

 

[ollie989898]

I am constantly struggling with what scientific literature now says, what I have learned and what I have then written on TFF.

The virus was definitely about in winter of 2019; Italian researchers tested sewage samples taken in December 2019 and found viral RNA in them so it was probably all around the world by the early part of December 2019. Ergo, there would have been no point whatsoever in implementing a travel ban of any kind- it was far too late.

Italian scientists also tested blood samples of about 1000 Italians that had volunteered to take part in a lung cancer screening trial. They found covid-19 antibodies in some of these samples, and some of those samples were taken in September of 2019. This again confirms that the virus has been around for longer than we think and quite possibly was passed of as something else. No one would have known to look for a unique virus using PCR so it could not have been detected.

Coronavirus has been circulating in Italy since September last year, researchers say

Findings ‘may reshape history of pandemic’, scientists say

www.independent.co.uk

The pandemic has illustrated how important organisations like the WHO and CDC are, and why idiots like Trump should not cut their funding.

 

[Lowland1]

I hear what you say and my comment was somewhat tongue in cheek! To be fair you are probably bang on. I dropped my mrs at local supermarket and had a couple of errands to do. Got back and parked across from supermarket entrance. The number of people struggling to even walk properly was quite shocking. These were not particularly old people either. I just thought there is no wonder the uk has a high death rate as most of them I watched would struggle to survive covid. I’m sorry to say it but never seen so many sick lame and lazy in all my life. I reckon we have so many over weight inactive people that there is no wonder nhs is under pressure.

I agree. I think the Government is ignoring the elephants in the room.

 

[JCMaloney]

Monday stats!
Been a bit lax with numbers, however things are improving slowly.
Only 430 positive inpatients at work
67416 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 67133 (increase 283).
30546 (increase of 128) were within the Leicester City Council area.
36870 (increase of 155) cases were reported in the County.

UHL reported 7 death's.
The death occurred on the following days: 23rd January (1), 26th January (2), 27th January (3) and 30th January (1).
UHL total deaths stands at 1091.

Jab totals......
Daily figure for 1st Feb.
England 1st Dose 280,513
England 2nd Dose 1,596
England Daily Total 282,109
UK Daily Total 352,935
Total number of vaccinations.
England 1st Dose Total 8,362,868
England 2nd Dose Total 462,503
England Total 8,825,371
UK Total 10,143,511

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

Newmarket can expect an increase in numbers thanks to this lot this afternoon. Feckin' travellers. I got caught up in their traffic on my way to the bank as they were all leaving the cemetery, no police of course, and a number of them walking into town presumably to catch Greggs before it shut for the day.

Matt Hancock's constituency too.

No wonder the funeral director isn't bothered by a £10,000 fine. Business should be booming after his efforts this afternoon.

https://www.suffolknews.co.uk/newma...s-rules-limiting-services-to-just-30-9155177/

 

[marcot]

Saw all the traffic and wondered what was going on .....at least its one less of the thieving scum !

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

Saw all the traffic and wondered what was going on .....at least its one less of the thieving scum !

It was an aul' wifey so no doubt she had already done her bit to make more of them.

Apparently the attendees came from all over the country with the principal mourners from Nottingham. That'll spread the South African mutation nicely.

 

[marcot]

Unbelievable [emoji849]

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

Unbelievable [emoji849]

Typical. Next thing they'll be running riot in a Tesco near you, parked up off the A14 while one or more of them is on a ventilator in Addenbrookes or the West Suffolk.

 

[marcot]

Thank god the pubs are shut ....I wouldn't want to be running a business in town tonight ....

 

[itsalwaysme]

They'll probably put the £10,000 fine on to the cost of the funeral which looking at the coffin (what is it made of ?) will have cost a fortune

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

They'll probably put the £10,000 fine on to the cost of the funeral which looking at the coffin (what is it made of ?) will have cost a fortune

Since you asked I went and looked it up. It's the blingtastic American Coral Jewel made of 18 gauge steel with a fancy lining. £2,249 inc vat. Looks comfy.

https://www.lymn.co.uk/Funeral-Serv...ins-American-Metal-Caskets/103-19-coral-jewel

 

[JCMaloney]

Tuesday....
67804 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 67416 (increase 388).
30730 (increase of 184) were within the Leicester City Council area.
37,074 (increase of 204) cases were reported in the County.
UHL reported 2 death's.
The death occurred on the following days: 28th January (1), and 29th January (1).
Total number of UHL death's stands at 1093.

10,520,433 jibby jabbys done.

 

[primmiemoo]

Since you asked I went and looked it up. It's the blingtastic American Coral Jewel made of 18 gauge steel with a fancy lining. £2,249 inc vat. Looks comfy.

https://www.lymn.co.uk/Funeral-Serv...ins-American-Metal-Caskets/103-19-coral-jewel

All that metal ... is there a high water table there?