The joys of planning permission

[Red Fred]

Does anyone happen to know what category of planning would cover a farm attraction if the public were able to come round and look at the animals, and do a nature walk?
Our covered yards were rented for many years (15+) by an old boy who kept his car collection in there, and let the public in with a tea room, etc. He obtained full planning (D1)and the council were happy with the parking and traffic at the time, but I wondered whether any further planning is needed for a slightly different attraction. It seems too good to loose the permission, and it has been empty for 3 years.

 

[Bob c]

Why hadn't the 20 complainants raised objections to the planning request?

I would have thought anyone directly affected (ie local) would have, if they were concerned

So, were these just 20 random moaners/busybodies who complain about anything?

Did the council officer say what the substance of the complaint was, or did he just react to vague "something's happening that I don't like"

If they complained without knowing what you're doing, they're some sad people


Some of the land I used to farm has been taken by an open cast mine, using a 30 year old consent---no fudgeer complained about that!

may be 20 londoners had moved in the last 2 years

 

[rob1]

Does anyone happen to know what category of planning would cover a farm attraction if the public were able to come round and look at the animals, and do a nature walk?
Our covered yards were rented for many years (15+) by an old boy who kept his car collection in there, and let the public in with a tea room, etc. He obtained full planning (D1)and the council were happy with the parking and traffic at the time, but I wondered whether any further planning is needed for a slightly different attraction. It seems too good to loose the permission, and it has been empty for 3 years.

If it isnt mentioned in the planning portal than it would be sui generis,

 

[Steevo]

Does anyone happen to know what category of planning would cover a farm attraction if the public were able to come round and look at the animals, and do a nature walk?
Our covered yards were rented for many years (15+) by an old boy who kept his car collection in there, and let the public in with a tea room, etc. He obtained full planning (D1)and the council were happy with the parking and traffic at the time, but I wondered whether any further planning is needed for a slightly different attraction. It seems too good to loose the permission, and it has been empty for 3 years.

Once you have the permission I think that’s that. It doesn’t really ever revert as far as I am aware.

 

[Smith31]

Does anyone happen to know what category of planning would cover a farm attraction if the public were able to come round and look at the animals, and do a nature walk?
Our covered yards were rented for many years (15+) by an old boy who kept his car collection in there, and let the public in with a tea room, etc. He obtained full planning (D1)and the council were happy with the parking and traffic at the time, but I wondered whether any further planning is needed for a slightly different attraction. It seems too good to loose the permission, and it has been empty for 3 years.

I don't know about the planning issue. However make sure you're insured well, the general public and livestock don't mix well.

A couple of years ago we were getting a lot of dog attacks, the locals were paying no notice to signs etc.

So we invited the locals on to the farm to interact with the pet/orphan lambs, just so that they could see first hand how fragile sheep are. Must admit it worked a treat and the dog walking in the fields stopped, the neighbours even formed a kind of neighbourhood watch stopping others from entering the fields.

However, one child got a little ill and itchy, probably due to livestock contact, so we stopped. Just make sure you do research beforehand and good luck.

 

[betweenthelines]

Got to the bottom of it today, a local pub landlord who I've known for years came to see me earlier. There's been some new houses built about a mile down the road, apparently some of the new residents didn't want the countryside spoiling and a petition was passed around to be signed at his pub during the last quiz night.

Bit late as we have had planning approval for 2 years!

If they're so against new developments spoiling the countryside TFF will have a whip round to pay @Kev to knock their houses down.


They must have had a shyte solicitor doing their "searches"

 

[betweenthelines]

I'd just love to go round to those incomers and say;

"I understand you're opposed to new developments in the Countryside, so am I. So lets do something about it"



Then fetch a sledge hammer and knock their porch down

 

[ollie989898]

Why oh why do I never get officious or ignorant twits come up with their bluster when im around?

Tell them to fudge off you are a healthy and safety risk because my digger driver wants to kill you.

Not even introducing himself the that is C word material right there.

 

[ollie989898]

I once had a bloke turn up on site. Same thing, come wandering over told us he was from planning and we was in breach, I didn’t have a clue cause customer sorted planning. After a bit of conversation I asked him for some id cause what he was saying didn’t make sense, I don’t have any he said, despite a card hung around his kneck. Crafty barsteward wasn’t even from planning, just a jealous nimby bloke from down the road

Id have told him to fudge off as well.

 

[ollie989898]

In our area 8 planning officers have topped themselves ,

Save someone else the bother of murdering them.

 

[wasted years]

Once you have the permission I think that’s that. It doesn’t really ever revert as far as I am aware.

I think you are right, I was in breach of planning for something last week but sorted now.
The officer was a consultant brought in to sort the case, he said technically I had lost the PP for being in breach but practically because I had had PP the council had already indicated they were happy with the original proposal so couldn't say they wouldn't be happy in the future IYSWIM.

 

[Forever Fendt]

Once you have the permission I think that’s that. It doesn’t really ever revert as far as I am aware.

They always take the stance as the original permission has not been implemented correctly and therefore is extinct due to the passage of time,It is a good idea with things that dont need signing of to write and tell them the development has been completed and taken into use

 

[Still Farming]

I had a chap from the Council visit recently over a minor planning matter, and he said he was being made redundant with many of his colleagues, including his wife. In the end, I gave him tea and biscuits and he spent ages chatting about his future and wondering what it held .
I felt very sorry for him as it was obviously getting him down, and they had decided to buy a camper and hit the road once their money came through.

Maybe become a farm assurance inspector after did he ?

 

[Steevo]

I think you are right, I was in breach of planning for something last week but sorted now.
The officer was a consultant brought in to sort the case, he said technically I had lost the PP for being in breach but practically because I had had PP the council had already indicated they were happy with the original proposal so couldn't say they wouldn't be happy in the future IYSWIM.

They always take the stance as the original permission has not been implemented correctly and therefore is extinct due to the passage of time,It is a good idea with things that dont need signing of to write and tell them the development has been completed and taken into use

I was surprised to see the bit in FW this week though about stopping houses becoming "Abandonded" and thus losing their residential status.

 

[Forever Fendt]

I was surprised to see the bit in FW this week though about stopping houses becoming "Abandonded" and thus losing their residential status.

Local authorities have removed residential status on houses in town or cities and then bought them with a compulsory purchase orders

 

[Tom_o_m]

When we were putting up new barns there was a concerted push by locals to deny us planning (who ironically lived in a row of houses no more than 10 years old). They used all manner of dodgy tactics, including submitting a photo of a flooded field and claiming it was where we wanted to build the barns. Needless to say it was a random photo off the internet.

One of the planning conditions was planting trees along the edge visible from their houses (fully 600 metres away...). No problem for us, they didn't realise how long saplings take to grow!!! They will do nothing to obscure the view for at least 15 years. The ringleader then tried to trespass on our ground to 'inspect' the trees, my mum told him where he could shove it!

When my parents sold the farm they enjoyed the fact that the new owner wants to put a house next to the barns, I have no doubt he'll get permission if he is persistent.

Tom

 

[Steevo]

One of the planning conditions was planting trees along the edge visible from their houses (fully 600 metres away...). No problem for us, they didn't realise how long saplings take to grow!!! They will do nothing to obscure the view for at least 15 years. The ringleader then tried to trespass on our ground to 'inspect' the trees, my mum told him where he could shove it!

They don't always survive either!

 

[Tom_o_m]

They don't always survive either!

We weren't exactly diligent about their upkeep...

 

[Smith31]

When we were putting up new barns there was a concerted push by locals to deny us planning (who ironically lived in a row of houses no more than 10 years old). They used all manner of dodgy tactics, including submitting a photo of a flooded field and claiming it was where we wanted to build the barns. Needless to say it was a random photo off the internet.

One of the planning conditions was planting trees along the edge visible from their houses (fully 600 metres away...). No problem for us, they didn't realise how long saplings take to grow!!! They will do nothing to obscure the view for at least 15 years. The ringleader then tried to trespass on our ground to 'inspect' the trees, my mum told him where he could shove it!

When my parents sold the farm they enjoyed the fact that the new owner wants to put a house next to the barns, I have no doubt he'll get permission if he is persistent.

Tom

I never will understand why some people move to farming areas, when they don't like the smells and sounds associated with livestock and farming?

 

[Tom_o_m]

Said ringleader ran a sailing school at the local reservoir... kind of says it all really. It was once a pretty village that had been ruined by the building of pretentious modern townhouses and the type of people that buy these houses.