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dstudent

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But it's probably no different to many of the western economies caught up in in the global banking scam that we are all paying for big time. For example the UK debt was 0.5 trillion in 2008 it's now over 1.5 trillion today despite all Osborn's austerity.

This is an overview of before 2009 and after up to 2012, of the USA economy by the US treasury, what is interesting is that it actually quotes median house income 2009/2010 at $49.445, coming down form 1999 at over $53.000, also from a minus economy growth to a plus economy growth during the previous administration.
https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/Documents/20120229_EssentialEcon.PDF
 

dstudent

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Ah sarcasm the greatest form of wit:rolleyes:, isnt it easier to just admit that you were wrong and the river law would affect all waterways, then the debate could move onto whether it is a good or bad law ?
Now isn't it easier to just admit that you really did not know what I was talking about, and admit you are wrong?

Have a lovely evening (y)

There are 3 summaries for H.J.Res.38. View summaries
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Passed Senate without amendment (02/02/2017)


(This measure has not been amended since it was introduced. The summary of that version is repeated here.)

This joint resolution nullifies the Stream Protection Rule finalized by the Department of the Interior's Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement on December 20, 2016. The rule addresses the impacts of surface coal mining operations on surface water, groundwater, and the productivity of mining operation sites.
 
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dstudent

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Ah sarcasm the greatest form of wit:rolleyes:, isnt it easier to just admit that you were wrong and the river law would affect all waterways, then the debate could move onto whether it is a good or bad law ?
President Donald Trump Tuesday signed the first in a series of congressional regulatory rollback bills, revoking an Obama-era regulation that required oil and mining companies to disclose their payments to foreign governments.

That regulation, part of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street reforms, was strongly opposed by the oil and gas industry -- including Trump's Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, who as head of Exxon Mobil personally lobbied to kill the Securities and Exchange Commission's rule that he said would make it difficult to do business in Russia.

"It's a big deal," Trump said at the signing.

That's a matter of perspective. Oil giants want the ability to hide payments they make to foreign governments, and Republican policymakers agreed to prioritize this as 2017 got underway. Democrats wouldn't agree to the change in the Obama era, but now that the GOP is in a dominant position, the disclosure requirement will not be implemented.
ExxonMobil was no doubt pleased with the president's bill signing yesterday, but for the American mainstream, this isn't "a big deal" at all.

What struck me as interesting, however, is what Trump said at the bill-signing ceremony, which took place in the Oval Office, and which lasted a grant total of two minutes.
transcript:

"This is a big signing, a very important signing. And this is H.J. Resolution 41, disapproving the Securities and Exchange Commission's rule on disclosure of payments by resource extraction issuers. It's a big deal. And I want to thank Speaker Paul Ryan for being here. He's been tremendous. Jeb Hensarling very, very important and really worked hard. Representative Bill Huizenga and all of the friends -- Peter -- all of my friends are up here. And we really appreciate it.
"This is one of many that we've signed, and we have many more left. And we're bringing back jobs big league, we're bringing them back at the plant level; we've bringing them back at the mine level. The energy jobs are coming back."

Show of hands: who believes Trump knows what this bill is and what the legislation does? Based on his comments, the president seems convinced the legislation has something to do with energy-sector jobs, but that's really not the case.
What's more, this keeps happening. Trump was reportedly annoyed with his aides recently when he wasn't fully briefed on an executive order -- after he'd already put his signature on it. Soon after, the president signed an order allowing financial advisors to rip off investors, and by all appearances, he had no idea what his directive was all about.

It's been like the movie "Anchorman": instead of an anchor who'll say anything on the teleprompter in front of him, we have a president who'll sign any document his aides put in front of him.

President Trump on Thursday signed legislation ending a key Obama administration coal mining rule.

The bill quashes the Office of Surface Mining's Stream Protection Rule, a regulation to protect waterways from coal mining waste that officials finalized in December.

The legislation is the second Trump has signed into law ending an Obama-era environmental regulation. On Tuesday, he signed a Congressional Review Act (CRA) resolution undoing a financial disclosure requirement for energy companies.

Both the mining and financial disclosure bills are the tip of a GOP push to undo a slate of regulations instituted in the closing days of the Obama administration. The House has passed several CRA resolutions, and the Senate has so far sent three of them to President Trump for his signature.

Jobs.....its all about jobs, deregulation will create thousands of jobs, the energy industry is one of the major employers.

Regulation has a stranglehold on everyone who is in business, Trump, as promised on the campaign trail promised to roll back regulation.....he is keeping his promise.............we like it.

Roger no it s not about jobs read the article I ve attached and the one after. That is use as an excuse by coal and oil companies, Please kindly show me how, not having to declare money given to a foreign government, equates to more jobs?

You are a farmer in Colorado, I understand there are mines there, how will you feel when your land and waters will be polluted by mines'waste?
What about the clean up costs and the health costs?
Like I said check the posts, ciao bambino
 

dstudent

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Roger was talking about the american waters bill not the mining one and you said it only affected mining lands and that is the post I quoted you on, as you say check the posts,

I don t need to, I know what I wrote, obviously you did not understand the context and just read snipets of a bigger conversation involving other posters, about mines polluting water and this is what I m referring to in my post, which you obviously misinterpreted. Like I said have good a night, no need to carry on with this discussion. I appreciate you input(y)
 
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Max Mosley is a private individual and as such has the right to a private life, so long as it is within the law. Donald Trump has now crossed the Rubicon as the public representative of the American people, his actions and behaviour are therefor now public property and available to be scrutinised and commented on by a free press. If he didn't like that part of the job he shouldn't have put himself forward or grown a thicker skin.


Max Mosley is a very rich man that has brought about Press Regulation which affects every member of the public.

President Trump has decided to not allow media outlets portraying fake news into press conferences.

Good on him. I hope he ignores the fake news outlets completely and lets smaller more professional businesses have a chance.
 

turbo

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Max Mosley is a very rich man that has brought about Press Regulation which affects every member of the public.

President Trump has decided to not allow media outlets portraying fake news into press conferences.

Good on him. I hope he ignores the fake news outlets completely and lets smaller more professional businesses have a chance.
All though I agree with what you say above, I must correct you on one point,he hasn't banned anyone from a press conference.All he has done is not invite them to the press gaggle just like Obama did with right leaning outlets,more fake news!
 
All though I agree with what you say above, I must correct you on one point,he hasn't banned anyone from a press conference.All he has done is not invite them to the press gaggle just like Obama did with right leaning outlets,more fake news!


Yeah I think the lack of an invitation is just on one day so far ? or is it a few more ?

It would be good to see someone put the BBC its place.
 

dstudent

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All though I agree with what you say above, I must correct you on one point,he hasn't banned anyone from a press conference.All he has done is not invite them to the press gaggle just like Obama did with right leaning outlets,more fake news!
With all due rispect @turbo if I may interject here, could u kindly explaine when and under which precise circumstances the previous president banned right leaning outlets?
Thank you(y)
 

turbo

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With all due rispect @turbo if I may interject here, could u kindly explaine when and under which precise circumstances the previous president banned right leaning outlets?
Thank you(y)
Go back on this tread or the fake news one and it is there for all to see
 
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dstudent

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All though I agree with what you say above, I must correct you on one point,he hasn't banned anyone from a press conference.All he has done is not invite them to the press gaggle just like Obama did with right leaning outlets,more fake news!
For some reasons I seam to find my self defending the previous administration all the time. Which makes me laugh as I could write a book on how many negative things I could talk about and are there to talk about. However I try always to be fair, as much I dislike this current administration I will try to be fair and judge him for his actions, the media does not influence me, and if I m wrong please do call me out on it. (y)
 

dstudent

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Go back on this tread or the fake news one and it is there for all to see
Thank you, i I ve read a few attachments, and there is nothing there about Pres Obama 'banning' right leaning media from the white house, never at any time from a conference or media meet.
Now I do not profess to know anything about what happened the other day or why. That is why I ve not made any comments, has there been any ufficial statement from the white house on why these reporters have not been let in?
Again I will reserve my judgemt when the true facts are out.
However in the interests of truth to claim pres Obama 'banned' any news outlets from an official or regular White House meet is false. I m quite happy to be proved wrong. (y)
 

turbo

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Thank you, i I ve read a few attachments, and there is nothing there about Pres Obama 'banning' right leaning media from the white house, never at any time from a conference or media meet.
Now I do not profess to know anything about what happened the other day or why. That is why I ve not made any comments, has there been any ufficial statement from the white house on why these reporters have not been let in?
Again I will reserve my judgemt when the true facts are out.
However in the interests of truth to claim pres Obama 'banned' any news outlets from an official or regular White House meet is false. I m quite happy to be proved wrong. (y)
I will look back tomorrow ,it's def there if not it's on google.It happened in 2009 when they barred Fox news
 
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dstudent

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I will look back tomorrow ,it's def there if not it's on google.It happened in 2009 when they barred Fox news
I stand corrected there was and still is animosity, between Pres Obama and Fox News, and attempts were were made in 2009 to curtail its presence in some press interviews.
The then administration was wrong in its attempts and thankfully were not sucssefull.
Therefore the new administration seams to have a precedent.
Having said that I ve absolutly nothing good to say about Fox news,both the channel and many of its presenters especially O rielly and Hannity had to apologise for telling lies upon lies and for unethical behaviour. At least it s honest about admitting to its bias.(y)
 
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Max Mosley is a very rich man that has brought about Press Regulation which affects every member of the public.

President Trump has decided to not allow media outlets portraying fake news into press conferences.

Good on him. I hope he ignores the fake news outlets completely and lets smaller more professional businesses have a chance.

Defining what and what is not fake news is the problem. Because Trump doesn't like what the mainstream press say about him doesn't necessarily make it fake.
 

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