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Loner

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Ha ha ha, you must not read much news. Have you read anything about how various countries are ignoring their orders from the EU? Italy set their own budget, ignore the EU. Hungary and Romania set up border walls, refuse to take migrants, ignoring the protests from the EU.

It will result in war.
There is a war going on now throughout all of Europe,and it is against the corrupt EU. This war is being waged by various Anti anything groups , and they use intimidation ,violence , and arson as their weapon . They are destroying the very countries that they want to stay in, they are made up of immigrants, local anti's , and any one who just feels like throwing a brick through a window.

The problem is here now,and it will get worst in the UK, and all because the PM has dragged her feet , and ignored the publics binding vote for Brexit. Of course we have the anti brexiteers who have stabbed the PM in the back, therefore going against their own party and it's supporters,what does that tell you about your local conservative candidate , or any party member candidate, it tells me they are all not to be trusted.

They should realize that people power will pay the traitors back, no matter who they support.

I would like to see all of our farmers,fisherman,industry freed from the EU and take control of their own reins again . Our country can provide all that we need,and continue to provide our home produced goods to all of the world .

Political agitators are always going to be present , in the end they are irrelevent, what each of us believes in may or not matter in the end.

The main thing is to enjoy what you yourself have,and leave the back stabbing and destruction to the politicians.
 
Ollie you always assume everything and crap on about the old state run business scenario...blah blah.

In oz we have business sectors that are a mess since not being govt protected.

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This aint china, they never did own car companies or run them.

Once again you have shown how idiotic your brain is when it comes to politics.

Community was better in australia in 1980 70-80 than it is today. We had more services in rural areas than we have today with less people.

The old ozzie icon cars from the 70's like a monaro or ford gt are worth hundreds of thousands if in any sort of nick. A car that appreciated in value.

And once again if your life is about money, i feel sorry for you...you missed the point of being on planet earth. Stuff your coffin full of it when you leave.

Like they say we all end up with the same amount of land.

Ant...
 

oil barron

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And I thought Mexico was a very nice country to live in. A lot of people I know have been on holiday there,and to other places where people are desperate to leave,and they do not understand it as these countries aere mostly beutiful , and full of natural wonders etc.

It’s a common miss conception that the wall is to keep Mexicans out. Buy and large the people the wall will be keeping out come from Guatemala and El Salvador. And even then if they have a valid asilam claim they can come to a regular port of entry and get in. The wall stops illegal entry, and people smugglers.
 
On the contrary, I DO give a damn that a car is more expensive to buy, and possibly crapper than one made by another manufacturer or even manufactured overseas. What the hell is it you want, a controlled government-led economy like some kind of socialist paradise, with consumers only able to buy domestically produced products? Fudge that, the UK had a dose of that in the 60's: it was pants and didn't work.

You lot seem to want to revert to some kind of protectionist state-planned economy with the whole thing backed by tax payer funny money. It's been tried, it didn't work, governments do not know anything about running enterprises which are designed to make a profit, they make a hash of public spending on sectors which are not supposed to be profit making and you think they could run a car factory better than Toyota?

One the one hand of this forum people complain about added legislation and government interference, yet here you are moaning that the government should be insulating businesses or industries in some early learning training swimming pool whilst the rest of the world swims in the real deal. You can't have it both ways.


A very biased observation.

Todays business environment is controlled .. but is actually heavily taxxed and regulated AGAINST UK business.

The truth is that the very same classes that built cars in the 60s are doing them today .. no difference in fact other than the managers .. which came predominantly from the upper classes and universities were directors and managers in the 60s, of course todays car manufacturers will have directors from other countries.

Today those same uppers classes and university educated .. unfortunately not very good at most jobs .. are in politics, environment, NHS, Councils or any other job which requires very little skill or work ethic.

It's no mistake that todays regulation hits industry hard .. making imports easier, which avoid taxes.

You cannot claim we want to "insulate business" whilst the complete opposite is true for decades now.

I think an investigation into who is controlling some of these import and distribution companies would be quite revealing. It's far easier to take a levy on an import than actually have to use your skill and create something.
 

Honest john

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Fenland
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The wall is immoral because it will drive up drug prices, plain amd simple...% of users dnc vs repubs%...think about it.

Ant...
you intermating that to reduce broarder control letting more drugs in would kill off more Democratics ?

Or would more Democrats be in hospital at Republican tax payers expense.

Think about it.
 

Loner

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South Manchester
Ah' the good old English class system, alive and well it seems............that and punitive taxation/regulation makes for tough times ahead.
The English class system?, what is it , please inform me. There is only a higher class , and they are the ones who have messed England up,and they are all the ones who run the government. The antis this and that are a class of their own , angry at everyone and everything ,destroying anything they feel like with bricks and hate .And we have the normal class, the workers, the people who have been left to live on as little as possible , ask them if they would like one of those cars or premises that the antis destroy with fire. Immigration is out of control, all countries need borders,most have had them for a long time,the wall is a new thing, but when you have the amount of people like the mexicans who are marching en masse towards America , you need a wall ,even if it is there to stop those who are intent on corruption or illegal activity. President Trump is what America needs right now,and I do not think he will give in to those corrupt democrats who still have a lot to answer for their own crimes.
 
And that is it?. Ilegal Drugs will cost you more?. What about the wall stopping the murder ,rapist, illegal everything that those nice Mexicans support themselves on.

Pelosi does not care 1 little bit about illegal criminals, only a small % of voters will suffer from this, they dont care about people...its the DNC, they care about getting power back so they can start to negate the 70,000 sealed indictments.

Ant...
 
Are

you intermating that to reduce broarder control letting more drugs in would kill off more Democratics ?

Or would more Democrats be in hospital at Republican tax payers expense.

Think about it.

No u missed the point, drug users by % is higher for dnc voters, so pelosi doesnt want to increase those drug's and cop the blame for it, there border control srance ensures cheap drugs and more dnc voters.

Ant...
 

oil barron

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And that is it?. Ilegal Drugs will cost you more?. What about the wall stopping the murder ,rapist, illegal everything that those nice Mexicans support themselves on.

There are 124million people in Mexico and I think the percentage of nice vs not nice is about the same as anywhere else. Buy and large the percentage of humble hard working probably higher. They are probably more fed up of the drugs coming through their country on the way to America than the Americans are. They also use up a huge amount of resources supporting and departing illegal migrants back to Central America.
 

Loner

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South Manchester
Hi oil barron,do you work on the rigs?.
If anyone from Mexico is of the descent hard working,law abiding citizen then why do they need to try and sneak in to a country?,surely they have nothing to fear by going through the proper immigration channels?. Or they could stay and help the authorities in their own country to rid themselves of the bad apples?.
And the building of the Wall would help save all those resources you point out America is spending on returning illegal entrants back to where they come from.
 

bankrupt

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Fortunately, the ageing clown Trump's soon to be old history.

So, let's all here in the UK try now to look to a brighter future.


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Loner

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South Manchester
Fortunately, the ageing clown Trump's soon to be old history.

So, let's all here in the UK try now to look to a brighter future.

I honestly am unable to say what President Trump's lifespan will be, but has anyone been promoting or talking about who will replace him?.
I think your cartoon is more important to all in the UK , it says it all about the alternative for the UK .
On another note I was watching a channel on you tube which was about the woman who passed away , but before she passed away she supposedly had predicted the 9/11 events and other things.
We know 9/11 came true ,even her description as to how it would happen was on the ball.
Her predictions for 2019 are as follows :

The Russian president will suffer an assasination attempt .

Europe will collapse and the economy will break will break down. ( Note all you stayers )

President Trump will sufffer from deafness due to a disease. ( He is already turning a deaf ear to the Democrats, and the Democrats are the disease that is ruining all he tries to do for America ).

And the final predictiopn : Russia ' Will Rule the World ' .

Whether you believe this woman or not , the predictions are world changing .


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oil barron

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Aberdeenshire
Hi oil barron,do you work on the rigs?.
If anyone from Mexico is of the descent hard working,law abiding citizen then why do they need to try and sneak in to a country?,surely they have nothing to fear by going through the proper immigration channels?. Or they could stay and help the authorities in their own country to rid themselves of the bad apples?.
And the building of the Wall would help save all those resources you point out America is spending on returning illegal entrants back to where they come from.

Hello, work is a strong word, but I look after drilling operations in the California Central Valley. I’m not an expert on all of the immigration laws and policies and their effects and it is really hard to self teach on the subject as like everything else in the modern world despite our technology the decisions have degraded down to tribalism.

Broadley speaking there are seasonal farm work visas available but I think the quota for these is being reduced which I guess forces some hard working folks to seek illegal status. The big meat packing houses such as Tyson used to prefer temporary or illegal status as it means the workers can’t seek alternative employment and they can keep the wages lower.

The republican side is arguing on the basis of protecting against drug lords gang members and those that have already been deported of hideos crimes. The democrats are arguing to help those in need fleeing the same people the republicans are trying to ensure don’t get into America. The solution seems to be to grant permanent status to the good guys and children of good guys known as DACA while shoring up the border to prevent the bad guys coming in. The president has hinted he is willing to offer this. However the democrats are so entrenched in their position against the wall they find it hard to back down from this. They are trying to offer up the technology wall to come to the solution without appearing to back down to their base.
 

oil barron

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Hello, work is a strong word, but I look after drilling operations in the California Central Valley. I’m not an expert on all of the immigration laws and policies and their effects and it is really hard to self teach on the subject as like everything else in the modern world despite our technology the decisions have degraded down to tribalism.

Broadley speaking there are seasonal farm work visas available but I think the quota for these is being reduced which I guess forces some hard working folks to seek illegal status. The big meat packing houses such as Tyson used to prefer temporary or illegal status as it means the workers can’t seek alternative employment and they can keep the wages lower.

The republican side is arguing on the basis of protecting against drug lords gang members and those that have already been deported of hideos crimes. The democrats are arguing to help those in need fleeing the same people the republicans are trying to ensure don’t get into America. The solution seems to be to grant permanent status to the good guys and children of good guys known as DACA while shoring up the border to prevent the bad guys coming in. The president has hinted he is willing to offer this. However the democrats are so entrenched in their position against the wall they find it hard to back down from this. They are trying to offer up the technology wall to come to the solution without appearing to back down to their base.

This video will help you understand some of the issues

 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 63 34.6%
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    Votes: 30 16.5%
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  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 5 2.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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