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DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
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Lincolnshire
It might be considered Stalinist, but I'd rather have uk wide standardisation than a hotch potch of different local standards.

We should have UK wide national curriculum. My wife's old school in Rotherham always used to opt for the Welsh exam boards as they were so much easier than the English boards curriculums. It's a nonsense. Should be same curriculum throughout UK. Same coloured wheelie bins, same everything. Different standards and "local democracy" duplicates efforts, increases cost and wastes resources. It might make a few local blowhards feel powerful but it's a waste of time money. That's why we English know that we don't need devolution.
 
It might be considered Stalinist, but I'd rather have uk wide standardisation than a hotch potch of different local standards.

We should have UK wide national curriculum. My wife's old school in Rotherham always used to opt for the Welsh exam boards as they were so much easier than the English boards curriculums. It's a nonsense. Should be same curriculum throughout UK. Same coloured wheelie bins, same everything. Different standards and "local democracy" duplicates efforts, increases cost and wastes resources. It might make a few local blowhards feel powerful but it's a waste of time money. That's why we English know that we don't need devolution.
That could also be a good argument for staying in the EU!
 

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caveman

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East Sussex.
It might be considered Stalinist, but I'd rather have uk wide standardisation than a hotch potch of different local standards.

We should have UK wide national curriculum. My wife's old school in Rotherham always used to opt for the Welsh exam boards as they were so much easier than the English boards curriculums. It's a nonsense. Should be same curriculum throughout UK. Same coloured wheelie bins, same everything. Different standards and "local democracy" duplicates efforts, increases cost and wastes resources. It might make a few local blowhards feel powerful but it's a waste of time money. That's why we English know that we don't need devolution.

Does whatever curriculum is in use count for anything?
As I understand it. Pupils are measured against their immediate peers, gauging their ability to learn whatever is put in front of them.
After all.
No two schools have teachers or conditions equal to the other in ability to teach a standard carriculum, so it would be unfair to mark some against those from a different school or whatever.
It all makes sense when selecting those with aptitude and ability for further education or not.
 
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DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
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Lincolnshire
Does whatever curriculum is in use count for anything?
As I understand it. Pupils are measured against their immediate peers, gauging their ability to learn whatever is pit in front of them.
After all.
No two schools have teachers or conditions equal to the other in ability to teach a standard carriculum, so it would be unfair to mark some against those from a different school or whatever.
It all makes sense when selecting those with aptitude and ability for further education or not.

When sat in front of a prospective employer, it would be useful if a grade c GCSE was the same standard across the UK, rather than a different standard depending on which exam board sets the exam. It's just jobs for the boys. Lots of different exam boards keeps the shiney arses busy. One national board, one text book would need many less employed in education industry and easier transfer of teachers from one school to another. Standardise or perish.
 

caveman

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East Sussex.
When sat in front of a prospective employer, it would be useful if a grade c GCSE was the same standard across the UK, rather than a different standard depending on which exam board sets the exam. It's just jobs for the boys. Lots of different exam boards keeps the shiney arses busy. One national board, one text book would need many less employed in education industry and easier transfer of teachers from one school to another. Standardise or perish.

Nah.
A grade c is inferior to a grade a
That's all the employer needs to know
It may be a little different at degree or above though
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Nah.
A grade c is inferior to a grade a
That's all the employer needs to know
It may be a little different at degree or above though

But a grade B from the Welsh board is inferior to a grade C from the Oxford and Cambridge board. That doesn't really bother me much, but what does bother me is my Mrs has to write the curriculum anew every time she changes schools because it's a different exam board, different text book. What a load of reinventing the wheel bollox. Should be same across the UK. Teachers and children move schools seamlessly then. Nobody at a disadvantage due to geography.
 

Walterp

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Location
Pembrokeshire
Different standards and "local democracy" duplicates efforts, increases cost and wastes resources. It might make a few local blowhards feel powerful but it's a waste of time money. That's why we English know that we don't need devolution.
I recognise this description, because these were the arguments arrayed against Welsh devolution 20 years ago.

Two points arise:

1. In the light of subsequent experience, what I've learnt is that devolution improves outcomes for us because it improves local accountability. That's why no one (save a few right wing extremists) wishes to abandon devolution, and why it has been a success.

If it costs more, so be it.

2. The fear of wasting money is typically an English preoccupation, being part of the national character. Policies as diverse as defence, education, foreign aid, all are permeated with this fear, somehow, of money being spent.

Is it, perhaps, a function of national decline?

I'm not advocating profligacy, but I notice that no other nationality abroad appears so preoccupied with the cost of things.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
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Somerset
So you are all for power to be taken to Wales for local accountability but want power to say in Brussels which is well a few more miles away than where the UK parliament is in England
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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