The New Brexit Party

So what am I missing here, genuine question, but how does having a Euro sceptic party (2 with UKIP) trying to fill the EU parliament with anti EU MEPs help the UK leave the EU? Let's say they get a few hundred elected, what do they then achieve apart from standing in Brussels shouting abuse at other MEPs to the point the EU then throw out the UK - is that the plan? Otherwise what is plan? After all the EU signed Mays deal but the UK parliament didn't, so maybe we should have elected more eurosceptic MPs in the 2017 elections - after all the 500+ remain MPs were elected after the ref and with the help of a shed load of Brexiteers votes. Perhaps I'm having a dumb moment but I don't see the logic?


EU MEP's form alliances.

The major alliance which controls the EU "Parliament" is Social Democrat (I think) .. which is why the Labour Party love the EU. They get Socialist policies enacted by main channel of the EU.

However, the balance of power within the EU is now a battle ground where Italy, Hungary, Poland and other EU sceptic countries are battling to remove centrist powers back to nation states.

Which is what Brexit is all about .. so if the nationalists gain enough moment .. France & Germany will lose control. Which is probably another reason why Theresa May is being awkward, she probably wants to support France & Germany within the EU. Without UK votes they can be overthrown.

If Italy gains the majority with the help of Farage and ousts Merkel & Macron's control .. guess where that leaves Juncker & Barnier ?
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
EU MEP's form alliances.

The major alliance which controls the EU "Parliament" is Social Democrat (I think) .. which is why the Labour Party love the EU. They get Socialist policies enacted by main channel of the EU.

However, the balance of power within the EU is now a battle ground where Italy, Hungary, Poland and other EU sceptic countries are battling to remove centrist powers back to nation states.

Which is what Brexit is all about .. so if the nationalists gain enough moment .. France & Germany will lose control. Which is probably another reason why Theresa May is being awkward, she probably wants to support France & Germany within the EU. Without UK votes they can be overthrown.

If Italy gains the majority with the help of Farage and ousts Merkel & Macron's control .. guess where that leaves Juncker & Barnier ?

With all the squabbling going on in Westminster we've lost sight of the bigger picture but I always suspected that the EU was nowhere near as united as we are led to believe. With the UK gone Poland and the V4 are going to step into the role of class troublemakers.
 
With all the squabbling going on in Westminster we've lost sight of the bigger picture but I always suspected that the EU was nowhere near as united as we are led to believe. With the UK gone Poland and the V4 are going to step into the role of class troublemakers.


I don't expect the EU to be broken up, nor do I expect the "Populists" to restore nationalist politics. But I do expect the German/Franco federalist agenda to be de-railed.

It's not all good as Italy wants immigrants within Italy to be dispersed throughout the EU - at least that is the propaganda being touted.
 

Scribus

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Location
Central Atlantic
I don't expect the EU to be broken up, nor do I expect the "Populists" to restore nationalist politics. But I do expect the German/Franco federalist agenda to be de-railed.

It's not all good as Italy wants immigrants within Italy to be dispersed throughout the EU - at least that is the propaganda being touted.

If there is one certainty about the EU it is that Germany will find some way to keep its position as top dog. If federalism takes a step back now now then it will wait until such time as it can move it forward again.
 

Jackov Altraids

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
So brexiteers are going to elect members of a parliament they want nothing to do with? Still don’t get it. Hats off to Nige though, all the minions throwing their £50s at him so he get elected to a parliament he “hates” so can continue to draw is EU salary without doing anything except ranting - good work Nigel.

You seemed to have failed to read my post.
The majority of people in the UK voted to leave the EU.
Even more people have stated they wish the EU to be reformed.
With due consideration to this, who should they have voted for at the last EU election and who should they vote for if there is another?
 

Scribus

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Location
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You seemed to have failed to read my post.
The majority of people in the UK voted to leave the EU.
Even more people have stated they wish the EU to be reformed.
With due consideration to this, who should they have voted for at the last EU election and who should they vote for if there is another?

Which just goes to underline a major problem with the EU, you can't actually vote for reform. You can vote for a candidate that might seek it but as an MEP they cannot initiate any form of legislation that puts it into practice. It's only the big turkeys who can do that and they'll never want an early Christmas.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Which just goes to underline a major problem with the EU, you can't actually vote for reform. You can vote for a candidate that might seek it but as an MEP they cannot initiate any form of legislation that puts it into practice. It's only the big turkeys who can do that and they'll never want an early Christmas.
Farmers do though they must like Turkey
 

Yacker

Member
Its somewhat ironic that Cameron offered a referendum to stop the Yory/UKIP vote split and now we have UKIP, Brexit Party, TIG, lib dem all splitting the vote, who would have thought it...
 
Its somewhat ironic that Cameron offered a referendum to stop the Yory/UKIP vote split and now we have UKIP, Brexit Party, TIG, lib dem all splitting the vote, who would have thought it...


If people were not upset with Westminster and the EU then it wouldn't be happening.

Both are rotten to the core.

Traditional media is in bed with both.

And now Both are putting the hammer of censorship down on new media ..
 

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