The new Nissan Navarra for 2021

[michael N123]

Really? They were a bit hasty announcing their retreat then.

Yes Renault own a big % of mitshubishi

No idea what that means for Mitsubishi pickups probably end up with some more badge engineered models like the Renault Alaskan andMercedes pickup

 

[Cowabunga]

Surely galvanising them cannot be inconceivable, we had a Saab 9000 which had a galvanised chassis.

If Nissan were ever serious about the longevity and durability of their chassis they would have used a better paint coating [not hard to do, their body panels are well protected] a larger stronger box section and not have stamped so many completely unnecessary holes in the sidewalls in the dirtiest and wettest areas.

 

[Cowabunga]

Yes Renault own a big % of mitshubishi View attachment 943441

No idea what that means for Mitsubishi pickups probably end up with some more badge engineered models like the Renault Alaskan andMercedes pickup

That's all very hot off the press. As I said though, it will cost them a fortune to rebuild their credibility and dealer network, so we'll see if they go through with it at this late stage.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Vans are saddled with their own set of catastrophes.

What are those then, with panel vans ?

 

[H200GT]

Its almost unthinkable that in 12 months the Renault Nissan alliance that includes Mitsubishi would go from offering 5 pickups in Europe to none.

I hope that somewhere down the line there is a plan. It not been said the Navara is being discontinued, they are just not offering the new heavily facelifted model here for now. Granted its not looking good, but maybe between them all there is a plan to offer something down the line

 

[Martin Holden]

Its almost unthinkable that in 12 months the Renault Nissan alliance that includes Mitsubishi would go from offering 5 pickups in Europe to none.

I hope that somewhere down the line there is a plan. It not been said the Navara is being discontinued, they are just not offering the new heavily facelifted model here for now. Granted its not looking good, but maybe between them all there is a plan to offer something down the line

Perhaps this is the nirvana for the pick up as we know it! Unless the electric ones can cut the mustard and attract new customers

 

[Kidds]

What are those then, with panel vans ?

Similar list as with all modern vehicles, gearboxes and engines mostly. Vivaro is renowned for injectors welding themselves into the head and needing a new head as an example, isn't the Trafic the exact same beast?
Buy new and replace when warranty expires or buy used on the understanding a big bill is very possible. Just the same as pickups.
I have a Navara and a Vivaro, repairs on the Vivaro are equal to purchase price. Navara hasn't broken yet

 

[Lakesdigger]

Sadly that’s true but the truth is once customers realise they are being sold sh*te they vote with their feet, hence the drop off of sales so have they really won ?

If you want a pickup there's no other option though so they may not have won but have they really lost as i don't think they are bothered about what is a small less profitable market.

 

[Lakesdigger]

Similar list as with all modern vehicles, gearboxes and engines mostly. Vivaro is renowned for injectors welding themselves into the head and needing a new head as an example, isn't the Trafic the exact same beast?
Buy new and replace when warranty expires or buy used on the understanding a big bill is very possible. Just the same as pickups.
I have a Navara and a Vivaro, repairs on the Vivaro are equal to purchase price. Navara hasn't broken yet

Trouble with vans is most use car engines and gearboxes.

 

[daveydiesel1]

A van wont do the same work as a pickup. Like to see a van out through a muddy field with a quad trailer behind to gather up a new born calf or pullin a tri axle fully loaded with heavy cows

 

[ollandroverman]

A van wont do the same work as a pickup. Like to see a van out through a muddy field with a quad trailer behind to gather up a new born calf or pullin a tri axle fully loaded with heavy cows

That depends on the van... I see plenty of utility company large vans loaded up to the gunnels with tools, permanently attached to a plant trailer carrying a digger, buckets, bollards and signs, then driven like it was stolen for 200k miles by an uncaring Neandertal. Permanently grossing up at somewhere around the 6 tons plus mark, that is far harder work than almost any pickup could possibly imagine.

 

[Lakesdigger]

That depends on the van... I see plenty of utility company large vans loaded up to the gunnels with tools, permanently attached to a plant trailer carrying a digger, buckets, bollards and signs, then driven like it was stolen for 200k miles by an uncaring Neandertal. Permanently grossing up at somewhere around the 6 tons plus mark, that is far harder work than almost any pickup could possibly imagine.

Ask the lads driving how often they are in the garage though it'd put you right off.

 

[Will 1594]

You want it to last for ever, they want it to last a certain amount of time so they can keep selling them. If they made them indestructible they wouldn’t sell so many and go bust. All vehicles are built now with a life span. 10 years as a rule of thumb I believe.

Toyota , still going ,and they take some beating

 

[ollandroverman]

Ask the lads driving how often they are in the garage though it'd put you right off.

They are bound to be with that level of pure unadulterated abuse

 

[Kidds]

I have been farming for all my life, been driving for 40 of them.
Could I have done it without 4x4? Yes and for the most part my daily drive has been a Cabstar.
Could I have done it without a van? No chance.

 

[michael N123]

A van wont do the same work as a pickup. Like to see a van out through a muddy field with a quad trailer behind to gather up a new born calf or pullin a tri axle fully loaded with heavy cows

A iveco daily 4x4 makes most pickups look soft

 

[ollandroverman]

A iveco daily 4x4 makes most pickups look soft

They do indeed
They also make most pickups look cheap ( VW Amoark excepted)

 

[CPF]

All we've got to do is to bide our time, one more year of testing then it will be on the market
The ineos grenadier (some good new videos on YouTube at the moment )

 

[Lakesdigger]

A iveco daily 4x4 makes most pickups look soft

Are they not low towing capacity though?

 

[michael N123]

Are they not low towing capacity though?

Be 3.5 ton I think