The NI/ROI Protocol

Watching ITV's Julia Bradbury in the Greek Islands, not sure EU food standards are being held up by goats cheese producer in the mountains, having been to mainland Greece a few times I think you can say standards are a just little casual compared with the UK, perhaps this has gone unnoticed by EU big wigs
But I know people here who kill lambs on farm and butcher them on a table in a shed and sell it, plenty in the UK are casual too.
 

JimAndy

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Watching ITV's Julia Bradbury in the Greek Islands, not sure EU food standards are being held up by goats cheese producer in the mountains, having been to mainland Greece a few times I think you can say standards are a just little casual compared with the UK, perhaps this has gone unnoticed by EU big wigs
i don't know why you don't get it. it doesn't matter weather the EU standards are higher or lower. it doesn't matter if the UK has the greatest standards in the world. it the EU market and if you want to sell in it you have to obey EU rules. even if those rules make no sense to you, and if you don't like that. then go find a market that will buy your stuff.
 

BrianV

Member
Livestock Farmer
i don't know why you don't get it. it doesn't matter weather the EU standards are higher or lower. it doesn't matter if the UK has the greatest standards in the world. it the EU market and if you want to sell in it you have to obey EU rules. even if those rules make no sense to you, and if you don't like that. then go find a market that will buy your stuff.
The very same can be said for EU exports into this country, it's up to Boris to fight fire with fire.
 

Ashtree

Member
And when you sign a legal
The very same can be said for EU imports to this country, it's up to Boris to fight fire with fire.
You don’t get it, do you. Boris and Co signed up to a deal, with all it’s attendant commitments and responsibilities.
It hasn’t however kept up its side of bargain in relation to the protocol. Therein lies the problem.
 

BrianV

Member
Livestock Farmer
And when you sign a legal


You don’t get it, do you. Boris and Co signed up to a deal, with all it’s attendant commitments and responsibilities.
It hasn’t however kept up its side of bargain in relation to the protocol. Therein lies the problem.
You don't get it, the very same rules apply to EU exports to the UK but Boris has as yet not enforced those rules, this is a grave mistake, can you imagine the upset if those rules are enforced with Irish meat exports to the UK, EU meat of all kinds etc coming across the channel, the hold ups would soon clarify EU minds!
 

Ashtree

Member
You don't get it, the very same rules apply to EU exports to the UK but Boris has as yet not enforced those rules, this is a grave mistake, can you imagine the upset if those rules are enforced with Irish meat exports to the UK, EU meat of all kinds etc coming across the channel, the hold ups would soon clarify EU minds!
The point is Boris hasn’t implemented the agreement. Full stop. If he had put the money, effort, infrastructure, manpower, IT, etc, the checks would work properly, whether between NI and GB, or between GB and EU. The man is a chancer. See what he did to the flat….
 

BrianV

Member
Livestock Farmer
The point is Boris hasn’t implemented the agreement. Full stop. If he had put the money, effort, infrastructure, manpower, IT, etc, the checks would work properly, whether between NI and GB, or between GB and EU. The man is a chancer. See what he did to the flat….
But aren't the checks on exports to Northern Ireland being carried out on our side of the North sea, if that's the case then checks on any imports from the EU would need to be carried out on their side of the channel
 

JimAndy

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Location
portadown
The very same can be said for EU exports into this country, it's up to Boris to fight fire with fire.
your are right, if the UK want they could impose such high standards they could block EU imports of food, but then that pesky little wto " most favoured nation" would kick in and you would have to impose the same rules on all food that you import from countries you don't have a trade deal with and considering that the UK import 45% of it food who do you think will hurt the most
 

JimAndy

Member
Location
portadown
But aren't the checks on exports to Northern Ireland being carried out on our side of the North sea, if that's the case then checks on any imports from the EU would need to be carried out on their side of the channel
the physical checks are mainly carried out at belfast and larne. last time i look they both in NI
 

Ashtree

Member
your are right, if the UK want they could impose such high standards they could block EU imports of food, but then that pesky little wto " most favoured nation" would kick in and you would have to impose the same rules on all food that you import from countries you don't have a trade deal with and considering that the UK import 45% of it food who do you think will hurt the most
“Sovereignty“!
 

BrianV

Member
Livestock Farmer
your are right, if the UK want they could impose such high standards they could block EU imports of food, but then that pesky little wto " most favoured nation" would kick in and you would have to impose the same rules on all food that you import from countries you don't have a trade deal with and considering that the UK import 45% of it food who do you think will hurt the most
Those same standards would not alter anything it would be the endless paperwork being strictly enforced that would grind EU exports to a halt, checks would have to be made on their side of the channel or else if they turn up with incorrect paperwork you turn the lorries around & send them back
 

JimAndy

Member
Location
portadown
Those same standards would not alter anything it would be the endless paperwork being strictly enforced that would grind EU exports to a halt, checks would have to be made on their side of the channel or else if they turn up with incorrect paperwork you turn the lorries around & send them back
so your cunning plan to bring the EU to the table is stop food entering the UK that NEEDS to import 45% of it food
and you can't simply import the food from else were because MFN means you have to impose the same rules on everyone. real smart plan. starve the UK to force the EU ?
 

Ashtree

Member
Those same standards would not alter anything it would be the endless paperwork being strictly enforced that would grind EU exports to a halt, checks would have to be made on their side of the channel or else if they turn up with incorrect paperwork you turn the lorries around & send them back
You would fit perfectly in Team Boris. Make stuff up on the fly….
 

BrianV

Member
Livestock Farmer
so your cunning plan to bring the EU to the table is stop food entering the UK that NEEDS to import 45% of it food
and you can't simply import the food from else were because MFN means you have to impose the same rules on everyone. real smart plan. starve the UK to force the EU ?
No one is proposing to ban EU food arriving just simply causing the same disruption their side of the channel
 
I agree, a little more common sense is needed.
How about the UK meet the standards required to export to the EU and fill in the correct paperwork? Job done.
Unfortunately common sense isn’t very common.
It's not just one way even though some would like you to think it's just the terrible Europeans that are being awkward.

I know of a tank of semen from Germany that sat for a month (and went dry) at the start of the year due to a change in UK regs.
Even now the process of importing straws and embryos takes about 2 weeks longer than it used to due to extra regulations/complications/box ticking.
 

AGCO reports sales increase of 43.5% compared to 2020 figures

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The tractor manufacturer AGCO, which consists of brands such as Challenger, Fendt, GSI, Massey Ferguson and Valtra, reported its results for the second quarter ending June 30, 2021.

Net sales for the second quarter were approximately $2.9 billion, an increase of approximately 43.5% compared to the second quarter of 2020.

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Reported net income was $3.73/share for the second quarter of 2021, and adjusted...
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